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[Bronn 4,660]

Have at it guys.  Your discussion IS quite interesting.

 

Although I still think most of you are bat poo crazy.

 

People once said the same thing about lots of geniuses throughout history...

[MadHatter 9,561]

People once said the same thing about lots of geniuses throughout history...

 

So you are equating people posting on this board to genuises throughout history?

 

Sorry dude, but that is priceless.

[Bronn 4,660]

No I'm just pointing out that maybe you're a part of the population that points and laughs when people have legitimate beliefs as to the possibility of extraterrestrial life...

At the same time, you'll be subservient to a sky god and profess to people that they should live by the moral tenets of a religion that isn't even the oldest one known to man.

 

At the very least, your beliefs are just as silly. In my opinion, more silly. So basically I read comments like you posted above (the "bat poo crazy" one) and just shrug my shoulders.

[MadHatter 9,561]

No I'm just pointing out that maybe you're a part of the population that points and laughs when people have legitimate beliefs as to the possibility of extraterrestrial life...

At the same time, you'll be subservient to a sky god and profess to people that they should live by the moral tenets of a religion that isn't even the oldest one known to man.

 

At the very least, your beliefs are just as silly. In my opinion, more silly. So basically I read comments like you posted above (the "bat poo crazy" one) and just shrug my shoulders.

 

first....I am not a religious person and struggle with the concept of God.  I "hope" there is more to life than floating around on this rock for 70 years and then becoming worm food.  But, I struggle to really believe in the existence of an omnipitent being.

 

I absolutely believe that extratrerrestrial life is possible (and even probable).  With I find bat poo crazy is the "way off the deep end" stuff that venom posts.  Actually, venom is the poster on here that I would most like to hang out with over a few drinks.  I don't agree with most that he posts....but I find him to be a very articulate, well-read, and interesting guy. 

 

[Bronn 4,660]

Fair enough. That is an entirely better way to put it and is 100x more eloquent than calling someone bat poo crazy.

[venom 666]

Actually, venom is the poster on here that I would most like to hang out with over a few drinks.  I don't agree with most that he posts....but I find him to be a very articulate, well-read, and interesting guy. 

Thanks for the kind words. What if we all got together for a TB meet-up at the bar or something one of these nights? Surely it would make for an interesting and entertaining evening, haha.

 

[MadHatter 9,561]

Thanks for the kind words. What if we all got together for a TB meet-up at the bar or something one of these nights? Surely it would make for an interesting and entertaining evening, haha.

 

 

Interesting and entertaining may not be strong enough words to describe it.... :thumbsu:  

 

But, I would be up for it.

[Floppin 5,743]

Thanks for the kind words. What if we all got together for a TB meet-up at the bar or something one of these nights? Surely it would make for an interesting and entertaining evening, haha.

 

I would be down for that.

[venom 666]

We should take a census to see who would be down.

[TANTRIC-NINJA 2,666]

Interesting and entertaining may not be strong enough words to describe it.... :thumbsu:

But, I would be up for it.

Set phasers to stun.....

(whisper) to kill..wink

[Guild 443]

Thats interesting but not the effect I was talking about. 

 

Imagine for a second that a species is observing us right at this moment. Now whatever distance they are away measured in lightyears, that is how far back in time they see.  So does that mean that both events are simultaneous.  The intuitive answer is no.  Light takes time to travel and while it is traveling,  other events are occuring. However imagine for a second that you could somehow beat the light.  For the sake of this experiment, it doesn't matter how you beat the light. Warp drive, hyper drive. Inter dimensional travel. W/E. 

 

So now you are lightyears away and the light you created before you left has not left yet. Now if for whatever reason you were able to transmit just as instantaneously back to the point of origin could you read your own message? Or stop yourself from going in the first place. What would you see?  Like I said this is a time travel question, not a light speed question.  

 

I ask because when we look at the stars we are looking back in time. Everyone agrees with that. But an Einstein-Rosen Bridge travels faster. So what does it mean to be able to see the light you made. What effect does that have on reality? 

 

I see what you're saying now.  Basically you would have to throw out time as we understand it normally.  Time is inseparable from space.  The Alcubierre (I think) Drive which is the most realistic idea for FTL travel gets by the paradox that you are describing by compressing and expanding space-time.

 

To answer your question yes in theory if you could accelerate to relative speeds of FTL you would be able to see and even intercept your transmission.  This creates a paradox however which is why it is not possible in practice with our current understanding of the universe.

 

I think this answers your question.  You cannot depart and arrive back before you departed which is what the latter half of your second paragraph seemed to imply.  If you instantaneously traveled back to your point of origin you would have just missed yourself depart.

 

Okay that isn't very clear.  I'm not an expert I just read about this stuff and don't work with it enough to communicate it well I guess.

[Guild 443]

Well for one, we're here aren't we? Everything we know to be alive on this planet is here too, correct? Dimensions in the context that I speak of more or less refers to points-of-view/sensory realities...not up, down, left, right. Ive used the example of a bat many times - they exist in the same space as we do, but their interpretation of the world around them is vastly different than ours. To them, we might only exist as a frequency. This point of view is just one pocket of consciousness that the all-encompassing electromagnetic space around us harbors. I always use this analogy to help draw parallels to the situation that we're in...it's just on a grander scale with us.

The key to seeing this is by truly understanding how small our perception of reality is. Electromagnetics are the foundation of the universe, making up all matter and dark matter...basically everything as we consciously perceive it, including us. Being that our biological make-up only gives us the ability to tap into 0.00005% of all that makes up reality, there is an overwhelming chunk of the puzzle that we are essentially blind to. This is a very profound statement, and should rightfully suggest that the possibility of life-forms existing in different dimensions within the same area of space we occupy, is a more than reasonable one.

 

I see what you are getting at.  Unfortunately as of now there has not been any success (that I am aware of) in detecting possible sentient entities outside of the visible spectrum.  Except that one time I was on LSD way back when.  The idea of these is intriguing though.