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I don't think he said "drug test blacks" dude

 

I guess you can't be racist unless you are very public about it.

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sigh. the myth of the welfare queen. you can wrap it up in a bow and present in any manner but it doesn't change the intent.

so you agree that it is ineffective.

Ineffective? You do realize 29 states are pushing for this very "racist and ineffective" policy and like 8 states already have implemented it. Utah is one of the only ones with actual stats so far, and they saved $320k in tax dollars in just 1st year.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765637435/Utah-officials-say-welfare-drug-tests-save-money.html?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

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I guess you can't be racist unless you are very public about it.

What does that even mean? All the states trying to pass this are racists or have racial motivation?

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Ineffective? You do realize 29 states are pushing for this very "racist and ineffective" policy and like 8 states already have implemented it. Utah is one of the only ones with actual stats so far, and they saved $320k in tax dollars in just 1st year.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765637435/Utah-officials-say-welfare-drug-tests-save-money.html?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

 

How many of those are republican states?

 

They caught 12 people. Sounds like an epidemic.

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What does that even mean? All the states trying to pass this are racists or have racial motivation?

 

So race does not play a part in these laws? Are you sure. Race is one of the many factors at play.

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How many of those are republican states?

 

They caught 12 people. Sounds like an epidemic.

 

That's like half the population of Utah

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Drug use isn’t a problem of poverty; it’s found among all groups and classes. Indeed, if we’re going to test welfare applicants—who receive trifling sums of money from the government—it makes as much sense to test bailout-receiving bankers, loan-backed students, defense contractors, tax-supported homeowners, married couples with children (who receive tax credits), and politicians, who aren’t strangers to drug use.

In other words, if stopping waste is your goal, then drug screening should be mandatory for anyone receiving cash from the government, which—in one way or another—is most people. But Republicans haven’t proposed testing for church clergy or oil executives. Instead, they’re focused on the vulnerable, with schemes that would embarrass a Bond villain.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/30/the-myth-of-welfare-and-drug-use.html

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In LA it was most certainly based on race.

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Just to give you a backround from that race, it was at a time when local economy was in a little slump and city was cash strapped, the guy running off with Duke said he would raise property taxes, while Duke was more about saving tax money by scaling back tax funded assistance program ( something Obama has also done). So given the two options, people voted with their wallets, not ideals. I personally dislike the guy and so did most of the people that voted for him, but it came down to money.

In fact it seems his idea over 20 years ago was not so bad if it actually has been implemented in multiple states and many more coming. As someone in a near 40% tax bracket, I have an issue with how many people believe govt assistance is a right as opposed to a privilege. I believe you need to help our poor and should have buffers in place for people who come on hard times, but people who do nothing to improve their situation EVER is a real issue. The person that is on govt assistance their entire life while using drugs, and never trying to improve their situation is not part of a sustainable economy,. I have a friend with a deadbeat dad who hurt his back like 30 years ago and all he has done is get disability and social security checks, stays loaded on pain meds, and does occasional side jobs for cash while collecting a few thousand from govt every month. Those are the people I have issue with and that has zero to do with race as he is white.

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How many of those are republican states?

They caught 12 people. Sounds like an epidemic.

It's only one year so far and it netted $320k in savings which is a decent amount. But it wasn't just 12 caught, over 250 didn't complete the process which probably means those people knew they wouldn't pass the test so just didn't come back. Also, what about that people that stopped using drugs to make sure they don't fail, isn't that a good thing? I mean if this gets people to stop using, doesn't that help the person more than anyone!? You can also reapply if you fail. What better motivation than finances to make someone quit.

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Just to give you a backround from that race, it was at a time when local economy was in a little slump and city was cash strapped, the guy running off with Duke said he would raise property taxes, while Duke was more about saving tax money by scaling back tax funded assistance program ( something Obama has also done). So given the two options, people voted with their wallets, not ideals. I personally dislike the guy and so did most of the people that voted for him, but it came down to money.

In fact it seems his idea over 20 years ago was not so bad if it actually has been implemented in multiple states and many more coming. As someone in a near 40% tax bracket, I have an issue with how many people believe govt assistance is a right as opposed to a privilege. I believe you need to help our poor and should have buffers in place for people who come on hard times, but people who do nothing to improve their situation EVER is a real issue. The person that is on govt assistance their entire life while using drugs, and never trying to improve their situation is not part of a sustainable economy,. I have a friend with a deadbeat dad who hurt his back like 30 years ago and all he has done is get disability and social security checks, stays loaded on pain meds, and does occasional side jobs for cash while collecting a few thousand from govt every month. Those are the people I have issue with and that has zero to do with race as he is white.

 

I feel you get just as much gov't assistance/subsidies as someone on welfare....if you make as much as you claim.

 

Test everyone or no one.

 

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According to 2010 specifics, the racial makeup of welfare recipients are:

White: 31.9%

Black: 31.8%

Hispanic : 30%

So when you say there are racial motivations , that means they are targeting and trying the oppress the white people as they are largest group receiving welfare?

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