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#136 Big A

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

http://prospect.org/...ns-hate-welfare


A 15 year old commentary by some I know guy? The racial makeup of TANF isn't even remotely what it was when that was written so not sure how that is even relevant.


Further, I'm speaking about my personal beliefs while you're trying to say that the average person with this same ideas have underlying racial bias yet can only post a 15 year old outdated commentary to support that while I'm posting actual black and white statistics! (No pun intended) I've seen many people throughout my life that I believe are taking advantage of govt assistance and that bothers me when I have to make those huge tax payments, but it has nothing to do with their race as almost all are white and a few are Hispanic. Actually one of my bigger properties is a 4 building office complex and most of the tenants are black business owners with most starting new business and succeeding. So if I had any racial prejudice, which I don't, it would be against the lazy whites I know as most of my black friends, clients and tenants are all pretty successful and hardworking people.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

and buy skirts at nordstrom



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:16 PM

and buy skirts at nordstrom



This conversation is a little over you're IQ level, so don't embarrass yourself by trying to join in, just stick to your little photoshopped gifs instead.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:16 PM

Says the freeloading dickbag who took a FEMA check to have an ebay shopping spree

If he's worth as much as he claims, he's paid way more into the system than a couple grand from FEMA would offset.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:19 PM

If he's worth as much as he claims, he's paid way more into the system than a couple grand from FEMA would offset.


Which is precisely why I bolded what I did.

 

That attitude of "Ive paid so much in that its my right to take some out" Is no different than the people he is maligning who believe they have a "right" to be supported.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:25 PM

A 15 year old commentary by some I know guy? The racial makeup of TANF isn't even remotely what it was when that was written so not sure how that is even relevant.


Further, I'm speaking about my personal beliefs while you're trying to say that the average person with this same ideas have underlying racial bias yet can only post a 15 year old outdated commentary to support that while I'm posting actual black and white statistics! (No pun intended) I've seen many people throughout my life that I believe are taking advantage of govt assistance and that bothers me when I have to make those huge tax payments, but it has nothing to do with their race as almost all are white and a few are Hispanic. Actually one of my bigger properties is a 4 building office complex and most of the tenants are black business owners with most starting new business and succeeding. So if I had any racial prejudice, which I don't, it would be against the lazy whites I know as most of my black friends, clients and tenants are all pretty successful and hardworking people.

 

Actually the racial make up is almost exactly the same.

 

Also how is your personal belief any different than mine. Well the difference is I am just attaching studies/commentaries that support my point.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:28 PM

If he's worth as much as he claims, he's paid way more into the system than a couple grand from FEMA would offset.



It was like $1,500 disaster relief check they gave everyone to help with emergency expenses. There was no legal restriction for it and the local news even showed some people at strip clubs using their FEMA and Red Cross money, I didn't need it for emergency supplies because I already used my personal money to purchase them a week earlier. So if you want to be technical, it was just a refund of what I had forked out. Also, there was at least another $3900 money immediately available to me for free , a temporary FEMA trailer, and Red Cross asistance of over $15k available for free over the next 2 years, yet I never took another penny, I like how people get on their high horse about a $1,500 check, yet how many of those would turn down another almost $20k of money like I did!? With what I pay in taxes, that was like a 0.000001% refund.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:33 PM

Actually the racial make up is almost exactly the same.

Also how is your personal belief any different than mine. Well the difference is I am just attaching studies/commentaries that support my point.



Racial makeup is not even close to what it was just 10 years ago, much less 15. You should google info before making factual claims. Whites has risen, Hispanics has big increase, blacks have big decrease.

http://www.nationalj...milies-20130116

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:41 PM

Racial makeup is not even close to what it was just 10 years ago, much less 15. You should google info before making factual claims. Whites has risen, Hispanics has big increase, blacks have big decrease.

http://www.nationalj...milies-20130116

 

In 2000, the racial breakdown of welfare was: blacks 38.6 percent, whites 31.2 percent and Hispanics 25 percent.

 

 

From you earlier.

According to 2010 specifics, the racial makeup of welfare recipients are:
White: 31.9%
Black: 31.8%
Hispanic : 30%

 



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:43 PM

I was basing my stance off of the numbers you provided earlier. Perhaps you should Google before posting info because based on the stats you posted my factual claims were correct.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:51 PM

Which is precisely why I bolded what I did.

 

That attitude of "Ive paid so much in that its my right to take some out" Is no different than the people he is maligning who believe they have a "right" to be supported.

I disagree; in fact, I'd say the two are complete opposites. Saying "I deserve a percentage of what I contributed" is far different than saying "I deserve a piece of what someone else put in."



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 01:58 PM

i don't think any of them deserved it.   but some people needed it.   that fat fuging piece of euro trash sure didn't, and by dipping into it he pretty much dropped himself to the welfare level

 

fat ass laid up on welfare eating cheesy poofs while people lost their homes and pets.   some lost their lives. 

 

he gained an extra chin from the ordeal



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:04 PM

In 2000, the racial breakdown of welfare was: blacks 38.6 percent, whites 31.2 percent and Hispanics 25 percent.


From you earlier.


In 2000, blacks were the main recipient with almost 10% higher rate then next race down, in 2010 whites main recipient with all 3 major races divided by a nominal amount. Not sure how going from a black majority recipient to basically all equal by race is the same thing, I mean isn't the crux of your argument based on anyone that want to go after a program that helps one race more than other must be racially motivated? Doesn't that argument fall flat if all the races are basically equal recipients?

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:09 PM

In 2000, blacks were the main recipient with almost 10% higher rate then next race down, in 2010 whites main recipient with all 3 major races divided by a nominal amount. Not sure how going from a black majority recipient to basically all equal by race is the same thing, I mean isn't the crux of your argument based on anyone that want to go after a program that helps one race more than other must be racially motivated? Doesn't that argument fall flat if all the races are basically equal recipients?

 

Now look at the % on welfare to the total population.therein lies your answer.

 

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:10 PM

I disagree; in fact, I'd say the two are complete opposites. Saying "I deserve a percentage of what I contributed" is far different than saying "I deserve a piece of what someone else put in."


See Borat gets it!


So just to simplify what Panthros saying, if this were a collection platter, one guy is stuffing hundred dollar bills in it every weekend. But this one time he took a penny out of it. Yet that is the exact same as the guy who goes there and puts in a dime, then a few hours later gets his dime back along with a hundred dollar bill week after week. Forget the fact I already paid almost $100k in just property taxes these past 10 weeks and every year, I took $1,500 a decade ago so I'm no different than people on welfare!

HAHAHAHAHA, that's just ridiculous!


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