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Doc Holiday

Proposition 8 ruling today

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The Supreme Court is supposed to rule on Prop 8 today, and announcement is supposed to come out around 10am from what I heard.

This to me is a rather big issue, while I myself am not gay, I do have a fair amount of friends that are and realize the importance of this.

it's kinda sad and funny that I'm the only person in my family that thinks this way and the rest of my family is starting to realize how far to the left I lean politically because while I normally but out of Facebook politics this is one of the few issues I will actually get vocal about.

The way I see it is if this is the civil rights issue of our day so its a pretty big deal IMO.

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My bet is a push down to the lower court in some fashion.  No way this court tackles it, but if they do I think it goes in favor of same sex marriage.  The lawyer that argued on behalf of Prop 8 was horrible and listening to it was as if you were reading a Tinderbox thread on the matter and the evolution of the debate on page 1 of that thread.

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Prop 8 struck down too from the sounds of it, all around good news today!!!

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Is it bad that I turned on the radio because I want to hear the right wingers melt down??

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“In the majority’s telling, this story is black and white: hate your neighbor or come along with us,” Scalia said. “It is hard to admit that one’s political opponents are not monsters, especially in a struggle like this one, and the challenge in the end proves more than today’s court can handle.”

 

 

Sorry, Scalia, but this is black and white.  This issue goes beyond politics.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court/2013/06/26/f0039814-d9ab-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html

 

 

Also, Prop 8 was bounced down to the lower court's decision apparently.

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The report I read of the Prop 8 decision said it was not so much that it was kicked back to the lower court but that the plaintiffs appealing the lower courts decision to strike down Prop 8 had no standing to appeal to the SCOTUS.

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Sorry, Scalia, but this is black and white. This issue goes beyond politics. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court/2013/06/26/f0039814-d9ab-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html

Also, Prop 8 was bounced down to the lower court's decision apparently.

it was, the Cali Supreme Court struck down prop 8 and it was the appeal of that which was brought to the Supreme Court and the appeal was dismissed thus saying the Cali SC ruled correctly and prop 8 is struck down.

So short version is no more prop 8

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The report I read of the Prop 8 decision said it was not so much that it was kicked back to the lower court but that the plaintiffs appealing the lower courts decision to strike down Prop 8 had no standing to appeal to the SCOTUS.

 

yes, sorry for my lack of clarity, that kicks it down to the decision of the lower court as Doc Holiday said, which had ruled it was unconstitutional.  there is an important difference here tho because the Supreme Court didn't itself directly address the constitutionality, just that the plaintiffs didn't have standing.

 

still means prop 8 is unconstitutional, I was just kinda hoping for a ruling other than that.  still this was expected

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