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Proposition 8 ruling today

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The report I read of the Prop 8 decision said it was not so much that it was kicked back to the lower court but that the plaintiffs appealing the lower courts decision to strike down Prop 8 had no standing to appeal to the SCOTUS.

 

yes, sorry for my lack of clarity, that kicks it down to the decision of the lower court as Doc Holiday said, which had ruled it was unconstitutional.  there is an important difference here tho because the Supreme Court didn't itself directly address the constitutionality, just that the plaintiffs didn't have standing.

 

still means prop 8 is unconstitutional, I was just kinda hoping for a ruling other than that.  still this was expected

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Google the word "gay"

 

Go Google.

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Progress!

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DOMA unconstitutional.

 

not in its entirety

 

i mean it is unconstitutional, but the supreme court didn't strike down the entire act (this time)

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WASHINGTON – Congressman Robert Pittenger (NC-09) issued this statement following today’s United States Supreme Court rulings on the federal Defense of Marriage Act and California’s Proposition 8:

“Today, the Supreme Court clearly stated that individual states have the right to uphold and protect the traditional definition of marriage, and that the Supreme Court does not function as an arbiter of moral disputes.

Taking a step back from the judicial activism of the past, the Supreme Court issued two narrowly focused rulings, while correctly acknowledging that voters in North Carolina and more than 30 other states have chosen to only recognize traditional marriage.

Every American has the right to be treated with dignity and respect. At the same time, I believe our government has an obligation to support the “best practices” that lead to a stable, healthy society. Across thousands of years, multiple cultures, and diverse religions, history has shown that traditional marriage is the best way to ensure the well-being of our kids. Voters in North Carolina support traditional marriage because it leads to the best possible outcome for our children and our future.”

 

 

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The penultimate sentence of the majority’s opinion is a naked declaration that “[t]his opinion and its holding are confined” to those couples “joined in same-sex marriages made lawful by the State.” Ante, at 26, 25. I have heard such “bald, unreasoned disclaimer” before. Lawrence, 539 U. S., at 604. When the Court declared a constitutional right to homosexual sodomy, we were assured that the case had nothing, nothing at all to do with “whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter.” Id., at 578. Now we are told that DOMA is invalid because it “demeans the couple, whose moral and sexual choices the Constitution protects,” ante, at 23—with an accompanying citation of Lawrence. It takes real cheek for today’s majority to assure us, as it is going out the door, that a constitutional requirement to give formal recognition to same-sex marriage is not at issue here—when what has preceded that assurance is a lecture on how superior the majority’s moral judgment in favor of same-sex marriage is to the Congress’s hateful moral judgment against it. I promise you this: The only thing that will “confine” the Court’s holding is its sense of what it can get away with.

 

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Not sure why it didn't put your post in there....

 

But I don't get this guy.   Is there any evidence that non-traditional marriages are less healthy for children than "traditional"?

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Not sure why it didn't put your post in there....

But I don't get this guy. Is there any evidence that non-traditional marriages are less healthy for children than "traditional"?

none that I know of, as far as I've ever been able to tell the main opponents of same sex marriage do it under the idea that marriage is a solely Christian custom or practice, which in reality nothing could be further then the truth.

I think it's more or less just grasping at straws to validate an opinion that's baseless

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That's why I'm guessing.

 

I'd argue that same-sex marriages may statistically turn out to have more successful children because they may not take their children for granted and will always be under the microscope of everyone else.

 

What REALLY matters is that a child, if possible, has TWO parents that CARE about their well being.  Single parents can do all of that but it's just easier with two, and that's what we should strive for as a society.  

 

I feel like some people would rather a child be in a group home his/her whole life instead of a same-sex couple giving them a warm, loving home.  WTF.

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there was some evidence that children of gay couples are bullied etc more, but I am pretty sure every study of how the children actually end up has shown no difference.

 

I can walk over to the psych department and ask if people want to know; there's a researcher here studying just that, lol

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