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#31 PantherPhann89

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

Camp counselors are authority figures for children. Should kids be guided and nurtured by ex-murderers?

I also found your comment that it would be a better thread if she had killed a child offensive to say the least. I'm sure you didn't mean it the way it came off, but it just rubbed me the wrong way.

 I read that she was running a daycare along with someone else, not that she was a camp counselor. I equate running with owning and she can own a daycare and not come in contact with the kids at all, that's the employees job.

My comment on being a better thread if she had killed a child simply means that what she went to jail for had nothing to do with kids. If she had killed a child the thread would be more relevant. However I did not read that the other woman did and with that, I disagree... If anything rubbed you the wrong way it was your own interpretation... 



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:16 AM

She is not "entitled" to work with children.  If she want to go sling food at IHOP, fine. Work in retail, fine.  But two murderers working daily with kids? WTF? There is a reason you have to pass a background check to work with children in almost every setting.  Ummm, I am guessing "murder" would probably raise a red flag.

Yes it would but I'm sure the circumstances around her situation plays a part. But the other woman that killed a child working with kids, I completely disagree with 



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:33 AM

Still can't believe the DA didn't press murder charges, at a minimum of 2nd degree.  

 

8 years in prison for murder is an absolute joke.  Anyone saying she deserves a second chance is foolish.  She deserves to be stuck in prison for at least 20 more years.  

 

Hell, she is 33 and probably rich from Fred Lane's life insurance and bank accounts.  Fred is dead.  Who deserves the second chance here?



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:48 AM

A second chance is debatable: after someone serves their time for a crime, legally that is their 2nd chance. Personally I believe in an eye for an eye, but that's not what we have. 

If memory serves me she said that she feared for her life. I know that I don't know if that's true or not and you probably don't either but everyone has their opinions. Mine is based on the current legal system, that I don't always agree with.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:48 AM

DOJ says murderers have a recidivism rate of 5%, the lowest rate of any group. Just sayin.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:57 AM

I'm all for re-integrating ex-cons into society if they have "rehabilitated" themselves.  

 

My two points are 

 

1.  She deserved more than 8 year sentence (6 year served) for murder.  There is no evidence of domestic abuse.  Obviously, I am not a lawyer, judge etc, but I think she was lying through her teeth.  

 

2.  An convicted murderer has no place around other people's children.  ESPECIALLY if the parents of the children do not even know.

 

If my son went there, I would be absolutely furious.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:26 AM

It's a good business plan. She caters to women who hate their husbands, or ex-husbands.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

I'm shocked and disturbed by the idea that a convicted felon can get a license to run a daycare/camp??? 



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:13 PM

I've known Ms. Gary since we were 6th graders together in Columbia. Would have been surprised that she was working with children even before the incident with Fred Lane. Fairly intelligent young lady, but was never very stable emotionally.

 

Came from a very well-to-do family, and a sense of entitlement was strong in this one.  



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:37 PM

A second chance is debatable: after someone serves their time for a crime, legally that is their 2nd chance. Personally I believe in an eye for an eye, but that's not what we have. 

If memory serves me she said that she feared for her life. I know that I don't know if that's true or not and you probably don't either but everyone has their opinions. Mine is based on the current legal system, that I don't always agree with.

 

I am not trying to go biblical or anything, but...

 

Matthew 5: 38-48

Eye for Eye

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.  And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.  If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?  And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?  Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.




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