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It all comes down to 2014. A bonafide superstar means we can legitimately dream of contending for championships. But if we end up getting a "lesser star" we are more likely to end up one of those middle of the road teams that can make the playoffs but not much more than that. And I don't even want to think of what missing completely in 2014 would mean. 

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one of those middle of the road teams that can make the playoffs but not much more than that

 

then it will be just like the old days

 

except the coliseum is gooooooooone

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2014 has always been MJ/Cho's plan IMO. These past few drafts were about finding some core guys/foundation pieces. Next year, we get a superstar and build with FA around him from there on out.

I know a lot of people think Stern/Silver won't give the Hornets a star...but if you're about conspiracies, they owe Jordan. They also would be smart to roll out a star player for the rebrand, especially in a basketball crazed area like NC. During the CBA negotiations, MJ was also rumored to be a hard-ass for the owners and big time backer of Stern...he owes us.


Lets hope you're right. If anything, Stern at least owes MJ a Top3 pick. That's pretty much all we need.
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ok, First, MJ blew up the team to lighten his wallet.  Second, Stern doesnt owe anybody nothing and saying he will give charlotte the #1 pick is saying that the lottey is rigged.  we all say it is, but its not.  trying to suck to get a high pick in 2014, is dumb. Things change. What if the players you sought, stayed another year or sustained career inuries.  Now what, you threw away season after season for this?  Its not logical boys and girls.  NBA teams do not tank seasons to get a high pick.  Being smart with your trades etc and adding future picks is how you secure a better draft pick.  Tanking seasons will destroy your fan base.  The risk is too great for any team to do this intentionally in the NBA.

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3 starters that aren't even old enough to buy liquor = give up on them already

 

I don't think anybody should be giving up on any of our young picks. We just need to see more consistency from our picks which I believe can happen. Kemba's improvement will continue now with the addition of Zeller. 

 

MKG is the ultimate complementary piece. I think he will continue to improve and will be the 2nd pick we all expect. 

 

Biz has all the potential to become the defensive man inside that we need. Based on his work ethic I don't see why he won't 

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ok, First, MJ blew up the team to lighten his wallet.  Second, Stern doesnt owe anybody nothing and saying he will give charlotte the #1 pick is saying that the lottey is rigged.  we all say it is, but its not.  trying to suck to get a high pick in 2014, is dumb. Things change. What if the players you sought, stayed another year or sustained career inuries.  Now what, you threw away season after season for this?  Its not logical boys and girls.  NBA teams do not tank seasons to get a high pick.  Being smart with your trades etc and adding future picks is how you secure a better draft pick.  Tanking seasons will destroy your fan base.  The risk is too great for any team to do this intentionally in the NBA.

 

Well, you can see who reads/believes national media. We blew up the team bc we were going nowhere. We were near luxury tax with a team that wouldn't be good enough to get out of the first round. If that is where you wish we would continue then that is on you. 

 

I've actually enjoyed watching this rebuild. We have pieces that we have never had in CLT and are being smart with our decisions. 

 

We are going to be too good next year for a top 4 pick based on wins/losses so for the first time in franchise history we are going to have to be lucky. 

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Kemba Walker: one of the most underrated players in the NBA.

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NBA teams do not tank seasons to get a high pick. Being smart with your trades etc and adding future picks is how you secure a better draft pick. Tanking seasons will destroy your fan base. The risk is too great for any team to do this intentionally in the NBA.


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NBA teams do not tank seasons to get a high pick. Being smart with your trades etc and adding future picks is how you secure a better draft pick. Tanking seasons will destroy your fan base. The risk is too great for any team to do this intentionally in the NBA.


Philly? Boston? Charlotte the past two years?

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ok, First, MJ blew up the team to lighten his wallet.  Second, Stern doesnt owe anybody nothing and saying he will give charlotte the #1 pick is saying that the lottey is rigged.  we all say it is, but its not.  trying to suck to get a high pick in 2014, is dumb. Things change. What if the players you sought, stayed another year or sustained career inuries.  Now what, you threw away season after season for this?  Its not logical boys and girls.  NBA teams do not tank seasons to get a high pick.  Being smart with your trades etc and adding future picks is how you secure a better draft pick.  Tanking seasons will destroy your fan base.  The risk is too great for any team to do this intentionally in the NBA.

 

A lot of people and history will disagree with you.  Teams tank all the time, and its usually pretty damn obvious.  Mysterious "injuries", sitting stars, yada yada.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  Boston tanked to try getting Tim Duncan years ago for instance.  They lost him to the Spurs. Memphis/Cleveland/everyone was tanking to get LeBron.  Saying teams don't tank, especially with high profile guys in a draft, you must not have been paying attention.

 

As already stated many times in numerous threads, we're not going to have to "tank" next year.  We're still going to be terrible, and even adding a couple of FA we probably will still be terrible.  It's a cycle that isn't broken in the NBA until you get a star to compete.  Since no FA superstar is coming to Charlotte (or any small market really), you have to get lucky in a draft. Sucks, but it's the way it is.  Buying a playoff team is easy. Winning/competing for championships takes a plan, time, and luck.  Such is life in the NBA for a small market team. 

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A lot of people and history will disagree with you. Teams tank all the time, and its usually pretty damn obvious. Mysterious "injuries", sitting stars, yada yada. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Boston tanked to try getting Tim Duncan years ago for instance. They lost him to the Spurs. Memphis/Cleveland/everyone was tanking to get LeBron. Saying teams don't tank, especially with high profile guys in a draft, you must not have been paying attention.

As already stated many times in numerous threads, we're not going to have to "tank" next year. We're still going to be terrible, and even adding a couple of FA we probably will still be terrible. It's a cycle that isn't broken in the NBA until you get a star to compete. Since no FA superstar is coming to Charlotte (or any small market really), you have to get lucky in a draft. Sucks, but it's the way it is. Buying a playoff team is easy. Winning/competing for championships takes a plan, time, and luck. Such is life in the NBA for a small market team.

Good say.

It's pretty humorous seeing people act like its really just that easy to bring in big name free agents. There's only two way to build your franchise in the NBA. The small market/bad teams has to build through the drafts and the big market will attract the star players. No LBJ, Howard, Wade, Melo, etc will ever come here. Since the existence of the Bobcats, we only had three decent players we could somewhat called stars (only in this franchise). Wallace came on an expansion team and JRich and SJax both came through trades. We're going to have to keep tanking until we find our guys like an OKC, Indiana, or Memphis team. In the end, teams TANK in the NBA every single year, period.
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I would say that the Cats actually tanked only the year they sat SJax. The past few years we have just been void of talent. Our team has always tried but they have just been bad. How do you tank when you suck? 

 

For me tanking is when you sit guys on purpose or lose on purpose. Our main players have always played we have just been horrible. 

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