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#1 DaveThePanther2008

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:25 AM

I posted this on a thread but it is an interesting topic.

 

I think this validates that the NFC South as a whole is the toughest division in football.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nfc_south

 

 

There might be a time when a team is down a year or two but we have to things no other division can say.

 

1. Only Division to have all 4 teams make the Conference Championship.

2. Only Division where each team as won the Division Championship twice.

 

(if we win it this year then that would change to 3 times each)

 

The only thing I would like to see is the records since we started playing in the NFC South.  Surprisingly Atlanta and NO have the same amount of wins.  But Atlanta has 13 more loses and 1 more tie.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:17 AM

I mean you could argue it. But currently if you are looking at rosters I'd say it's NFC west the NFC north then NFC south then afc north then NFC east then afc east then afc south then afc west. I personally believe our rival matchups are just as good if not better than anyone else's but I'm bias and have extreme hate for the falcons so

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:19 AM

You could say that perhaps recently the division is one of the best but none of the teams has a winning record. What are their records since realignment in 2002?

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:35 AM

This year it is the nfc west so far. My non homer pick if it was possible for the superbowl assuming one of them switched divisions would be Seatle vs SF. That's not possible but they play in the same division so between them and the Rams stepping up makes that the strongest.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:52 AM

You could say that perhaps recently the division is one of the best but none of the teams has a winning record. What are their records since realignment in 2002?


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Atlanta Falcons: 100-75-1 (regular season), 3-6 (play offs) - 3* division titles

Carolina Panthers: 86-90 (regular season), 5-4 (play offs) - 2* division titles, 1* nfc title

New Orleans Saints: 97-79 (regular season), 5-3 (play offs) - 3* division titles, 1* nfc title, 1* super bowl

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 81-95 (regular season), 3-2 (play offs) - 3* division titles, 1* nfc title, 1* super bowl

#6 DaveThePanther2008

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:50 AM

Ok I did some research. Though it can be looked at many ways.  I judged it by how well the division did overall not necessary who won the conference or Super Bowl.

 

I gave 8 points for having the best season within divisions and 1 point for having the worst.  ie(when NFC W was won by a 7-9 team the were still last or 2010 NFC South had 3 teams with double digit wins so they were #1)

 

These are the totals (number of top spots)

NFC SOUTH 63  (NS) (3)

NFC EAST 61    (NE) (2)

AFC NORTH 55  (AN) (1)

NFC NORTH 52  (NN) (1)

AFC WEST 48  (AW) (2)

AFC EAST 46  (AE) (1)

AFC SOUTH 42 (AS) (1)

NFC WEST 29 (NW) (0)

 

This is the breakdown

 

2002 - 8 AW, 7 NS, 6 AE, 5 NE, 4 AN, 3 NW, 2 AS, 1 NN 

2003 - 8 NS, 7 NN, 6 NW, 5 AE, 4 AN, 3 AS, 2 NE, 1 AW

2004 - 8 AE, 7 AN, 6 AS, 5 AW, 4 NS, 3 NN, 2 NW, 1 AE

2005 - 8 NE, 7 AW, 6 NS, 5 AW, 4 NN, 3 AE, 2 NW, 1 AS

2006 - 8 AW, 7 NE, 6 NS, 5 AN, 4 NN, 3 AS, 2 AE, 1 NW

2007 - 8 AS, 7 NE, 6 NN, 5 AN, 4 NS, 3 AE, 2 NW, 1 AW

2008 - 8 NS, 7 NE, 6 AE, 5 AS, 4 NN, 3 AN, 2 AW, 1 NW

2009 - 8 NE, 7 AS, 6 NS, 5 AN, 4 NW, 3 AE, 2 AW, 1 NW

2010 - 8 NS, 7 AW, 6 AE, 5 NE, 4 NN, 3 AS, 2 AN, 1 NW

2011 - 8 AN, 7 NN, 6 AW, 5 NE, 4 NW, 3 AE, 2 NS, 1 AS

2012 - 8 NN, 7 AN, 6 NE, 5 NW, 4 NS, 3 AS, 2 AN, 1 AE

 

What surprised me was how good the NFC East has been.  Though Washington was usually on the bottom the rest of the division was pretty tough.   All those screaming NFC West.  Good lord they were always at or near the bottom perennially.  Not even close to the AFC South.

 

Its objective and you can go to the NFL.com and do your own analysis.  You may come up with something different but it won't be too far off

 

http://www.nfl.com/s...G&split=Overall

 

 

 

 



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:04 AM

It's a "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" title. NFC South has probably been the most competitive for the last decade, but the toughest division right now is the NFC West (which would have been a hilarious thought a couple years ago). The Falcons are the favorites in the South but every other team (and yes, including us) has some questions that need to be answered. The division as a whole is not there yet.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:30 AM

I mean you could argue it. But currently if you are looking at rosters I'd say it's NFC west the NFC north then NFC south then afc north then NFC east then afc east then afc south then afc west. I personally believe our rival matchups are just as good if not better than anyone else's but I'm bias and have extreme hate for the falcons so

i believe he is talking about the duration since the realignment, not just this year.  two years ago the nfcw was by far the worst, the nfcs has always been consistently tough.  nfcn wasnt much other than the packers for a while with an occasional good bears or vikings team



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:30 AM

i believe he is talking about the duration since the realignment, not just this year. two years ago the nfcw was by far the worst, the nfcs has always been consistently tough. nfcn wasnt much other than the packers for a while with an occasional good bears or vikings team



Good point. I'm still not that high on NFCe though. Maybe cause I'm around the skins all the time but I've never though that division was any good they were all just so-so and that made the matchups look better then they were

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 10:35 AM

The NFC in general is ridiculous right now.

 

 Let's name all of the "bad" teams in the NFC:  Arizona, St Louis, and....that may be it.  Those two teams certainly aren't terrible.  The NFC East is probably the weakest, but any of those teams can beat anyone else on any given day.  

 

Now the "bad" AFC teams:  Buffalo, Jets, Miami, Tennesse, Jacksonville, Oakland, Kansas City, San Diego.  The Colts and Browns are improving but they're not that tough.  

 

The NFC is definitely a tough place to play right now.  



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:02 AM

The NFC in general is ridiculous right now.

 

 Let's name all of the "bad" teams in the NFC:  Arizona, St Louis, and....that may be it.  Those two teams certainly aren't terrible.  The NFC East is probably the weakest, but any of those teams can beat anyone else on any given day.  

 

Now the "bad" AFC teams:  Buffalo, Jets, Miami, Tennesse, Jacksonville, Oakland, Kansas City, San Diego.  The Colts and Browns are improving but they're not that tough.  

 

The NFC is definitely a tough place to play right now.  

 

Exactly.

 

I think that 10 wins has you on the outside of the playoffs looking in this season.....heck. 11 win team might not make it.

 

The wildcard battle in the NFC will be incredible this season.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:19 AM

Exactly.

I think that 10 wins has you on the outside of the playoffs looking in this season.....heck. 11 win team might not make it.

The wildcard battle in the NFC will be incredible this season.


This is the point I've tried to make to DavethePanther the whole time when he's saying we are a lock for the playoffs.

I think it's safe to assume two teams are coming from the West. 1) because they're both really good teams and 2) they have the benefit of playing the only two "bad" teams twice.

This leaves Three spots for: Carolina, NoLa, ATL, Chiago, Minnesota, and Detroit. (I don't think a NFC East team will be in a Wild Card position.

That fight for the last Wild Card is going to be nuts and it may be 11 wins. We just need to win the Division and fug it

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 11:20 AM

The NFC in general is ridiculous right now.

 

 Let's name all of the "bad" teams in the NFC:  Arizona, St Louis, and....that may be it.  Those two teams certainly aren't terrible.  The NFC East is probably the weakest, but any of those teams can beat anyone else on any given day.  

 

Now the "bad" AFC teams:  Buffalo, Jets, Miami, Tennesse, Jacksonville, Oakland, Kansas City, San Diego.  The Colts and Browns are improving but they're not that tough.  

 

The NFC is definitely a tough place to play right now.  

and just 2 or 3 years ago it was all about the AFC, changes quick in the nfl



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:21 PM

This is the point I've tried to make to DavethePanther the whole time when he's saying we are a lock for the playoffs.

I think it's safe to assume two teams are coming from the West. 1) because they're both really good teams and 2) they have the benefit of playing the only two "bad" teams twice.

This leaves Three spots for: Carolina, NoLa, ATL, Chiago, Minnesota, and Detroit. (I don't think a NFC East team will be in a Wild Card position.

That fight for the last Wild Card is going to be nuts and it may be 11 wins. We just need to win the Division and fug it

 

Show me one time I have ever said we are a lock for the playoffs. 

 

SHOW ME!!!!!!

 

Don't put words in my mouth.  I have not even posted what I think our record will be.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

The NFC in general is ridiculous right now.

 

 Let's name all of the "bad" teams in the NFC:  Arizona, St Louis, and....that may be it.  Those two teams certainly aren't terrible.  The NFC East is probably the weakest, but any of those teams can beat anyone else on any given day.  

 

Now the "bad" AFC teams:  Buffalo, Jets, Miami, Tennesse, Jacksonville, Oakland, Kansas City, San Diego.  The Colts and Browns are improving but they're not that tough.  

 

The NFC is definitely a tough place to play right now.  

 

I'd be careful labeling St. Louis as a bad team.  That team finished ahead of the Panthers last year, and held thier own with the Seahawks and Niners.

 

I think the Cardinals are the clear cut bottom feeder in the NFC, but who knows.  Arians and Palmer could do some decent things with Fitzgerald, and thier defense has always been somewhat decent.




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