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#16 rayzor

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:35 AM

chud tried to win by being to complex for the other team's defense. it backfired.

 

shula seems to favor efficiency,  which is good. i just hope he's that way with his playcalling and in-game management. that is still what remains my main concern with him and rivera. 

 

it seems like they should be able to hit the ground firing on all cylinders week one and they seem to understand they have to start fast out of the gate. i just hope they can pull it off. this is one of those areas that the culture needs to be changing. they've been too laid back for too long just trying to be a bunch of happy guys.it makes for some nice warm fuzzies, but it doesn't often translate into great football. if the guys are too comfortable, it takes away the urgency. i'm hoping that the competition at WR will net some good results. i just wish we had better competition for those spots. it's better than what we had, but not where it should be. same with the secondary.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:40 AM

Shula scares the poo out of me. We are really moving in the right direction defensively and we have the abiility to keep D's guessing. But Shula might scare me more than our secondary and spiders



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:43 AM

Shula scares the poo out of me. We are really moving in the right direction defensively and we have the abiility to keep D's guessing. But Shula might scare me more than our secondary and spiders


Exactly. That's why I'm still on that 6 to 8 win bandwagon. Until Shula proves he can call a game and make adjustments, I'm not overly optimistic. That goes for our entire coaching staff.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:12 AM

chud tried to win by being to complex for the other team's defense. it backfired.
 
shula seems to favor efficiency,  which is good. i just hope he's that way with his playcalling and in-game management. that is still what remains my main concern with him and rivera. 
 
it seems like they should be able to hit the ground firing on all cylinders week one and they seem to understand they have to start fast out of the gate. i just hope they can pull it off. this is one of those areas that the culture needs to be changing. they've been too laid back for too long just trying to be a bunch of happy guys.it makes for some nice warm fuzzies, but it doesn't often translate into great football. if the guys are too comfortable, it takes away the urgency. i'm hoping that the competition at WR will net some good results. i just wish we had better competition for those spots. it's better than what we had, but not where it should be. same with the secondary.


The Sunday paper here had an interview with Smitty. In it he said that too many people get comfortable. He equates comfortable with lazy. He says you have to get past that, and that it takes hard work to do so. He also said that everyone was working hard to shed that label. It was refreshing to hear that.

As to the verbiage. IMO, shortening the verbiage does not make the huddle much shorter. It only takes a few seconds to call a play no matter how long the verbiage. It is getting the plays in quicker, added to the shortened verbiage, that gets us to the line quicker.

That, and with the shortened verbiage fewer players will be confused. When you know your roll, you play faster. I know most every player knows what those long play calls mean, but you can still be confused as to execution. I am hoping, as are many others, that the shorter verbiage equates to better execution because everyone should know their roll in the play. Less confusion is good.

I know I get excited every year. But I truly feel something different this year. I am giddy as a school girl over the possibilities this year. Of course I said that last year as well, so take that for what its worth.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:30 AM

Exactly. That's why I'm still on that 6 to 8 win bandwagon. Until Shula proves he can call a game and make adjustments, I'm not overly optimistic. That goes for our entire coaching staff.


To me this is like saying, I think that chick has titties, but until she shows them to me, I can't be sure. They're there, it is just a matter of how big they are.

Benjamin Franklin was also a pessimist. He claimed he liked being so because when something good actually did happen, he could finally get excited.

This is sports. It has nothing to do with life. It is entertainment. Do you go into the movie theater thinking the movie is going to suck until it proves otherwise?

I love the fact that I can get excited over the future. Life is hard enough as it is. Give me something I can look forward to. That is what sports is to me. Something to get excited about. If it doesn't work out, my life does not change. If however, it does work out. I have this warm fuzzy feeling that can last for a good long while. Of course that fuzzy feeling hasn't been around a whole lot in my lifetime, what with being a Lions fan, and now a Panthers fan.

But by golly, I am going to hope for the best anyway. Hellz, after 20+ years of marriage, sports is the only thing I have left that the wife hasn't tarnished.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:26 AM

To me this is like saying, I think that chick has titties, but until she shows them to me, I can't be sure. They're there, it is just a matter of how big they are.

Benjamin Franklin was also a pessimist. He claimed he liked being so because when something good actually did happen, he could finally get excited.

This is sports. It has nothing to do with life. It is entertainment. Do you go into the movie theater thinking the movie is going to suck until it proves otherwise?

I love the fact that I can get excited over the future. Life is hard enough as it is. Give me something I can look forward to. That is what sports is to me. Something to get excited about. If it doesn't work out, my life does not change. If however, it does work out. I have this warm fuzzy feeling that can last for a good long while. Of course that fuzzy feeling hasn't been around a whole lot in my lifetime, what with being a Lions fan, and now a Panthers fan.

But by golly, I am going to hope for the best anyway. Hellz, after 20+ years of marriage, sports is the only thing I have left that the wife hasn't tarnished.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lions and Panthers fan?  Holy hell, your liver must be deader than mine, and mine died in 1995.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:45 AM

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Lions and Panthers fan?  Holy hell, your liver must be deader than mine, and mine died in 1995.

If it weren't for the wife and her fugging Cuervo Gold I would be OK. 20 years of experimenting and it still comes back to that. Smells bad, tastes worse, and it never lets you know when you've had enough. Until its too late of course.

I grew up in Michigan, so being a Lions fan was a birth rite. There have been a few moments where it was all worthwhile. Just not very many.

Hellz, the Panthers have had more success in their short history than the Lions had in the whole time I have been a fan.

The good news is that both teams now actually have a QB that can get them where they want to go. I have waited a lifetime for this moment. I am going to enjoy it to the fullest.

My dream is a Lions vs Panthers NFC Championship game. I would pull for the Panthers, but either way, I am going to my 2nd Super Bowl. That is sad. Almost 50 years of being a fan, and 1 whole Super Bowl.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:07 PM

The Sunday paper here had an interview with Smitty. In it he said that too many people get comfortable. He equates comfortable with lazy. He says you have to get past that, and that it takes hard work to do so. He also said that everyone was working hard to shed that label. It was refreshing to hear that.

As to the verbiage. IMO, shortening the verbiage does not make the huddle much shorter. It only takes a few seconds to call a play no matter how long the verbiage. It is getting the plays in quicker, added to the shortened verbiage, that gets us to the line quicker.

That, and with the shortened verbiage fewer players will be confused. When you know your roll, you play faster. I know most every player knows what those long play calls mean, but you can still be confused as to execution. I am hoping, as are many others, that the shorter verbiage equates to better execution because everyone should know their roll in the play. Less confusion is good.

I know I get excited every year. But I truly feel something different this year. I am giddy as a school girl over the possibilities this year. Of course I said that last year as well, so take that for what its worth.

 

you know titties exist because you've seen them before..  in your analogy, you can't say the same for Shula.  You can hope and pray, but that doesn't necessarily have to dictate seeing blind for love of your team.

 

I have a lot of hope, but I'm not going to pretend Shula's past isn't a massive question mark, and that the Panthers are going to mysteriously jump out of the gate in week 1 like they're ass is on fire.  



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:27 PM

I know one thing is for sure. We will not be playing to win chud a head coaching job this year.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:30 PM

Time will tell.  That'll be the one true test of whether Shula can make it as an OC or if he will fail again...and I understand his failure can be attributed to other things, but still.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

you know titties exist because you've seen them before.. in your analogy, you can't say the same for Shula. You can hope and pray, but that doesn't necessarily have to dictate seeing blind for love of your team.

I have a lot of hope, but I'm not going to pretend Shula's past isn't a massive question mark, and that the Panthers are going to mysteriously jump out of the gate in week 1 like they're ass is on fire.


Rivera almost got fired last year for Chuds crap. The question is do you trust his judgment. No doubt he passed up on some good OCs for Shula so he must think he is competent. Although the other side of that argument is that no one would sign

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

Hopefully our team's OODA loop is faster than the opponent.  If you don't know about the OODA loop, google.  It's a great concept.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:54 PM

Superbowl folks, superbowl. I said it!



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:41 PM

If it weren't for the wife and her fugging Cuervo Gold I would be OK. 20 years of experimenting and it still comes back to that. Smells bad, tastes worse, and it never lets you know when you've had enough. Until its too late of course.

I grew up in Michigan, so being a Lions fan was a birth rite. There have been a few moments where it was all worthwhile. Just not very many.

Hellz, the Panthers have had more success in their short history than the Lions had in the whole time I have been a fan.

The good news is that both teams now actually have a QB that can get them where they want to go. I have waited a lifetime for this moment. I am going to enjoy it to the fullest.

My dream is a Lions vs Panthers NFC Championship game. I would pull for the Panthers, but either way, I am going to my 2nd Super Bowl. That is sad. Almost 50 years of being a fan, and 1 whole Super Bowl.

 

so basically you, Monsta, SCP, and I can never meet, or we're going up on charges of assault worse than when Chris Brown met Rhianna.  Granted, I don't think they file charges on you for assaulting your own liver, but with the way this country is going, you never know anymore.

 

More to the point, I'll admit to rooting for the Lions at least since they went 0-16, because, Jesus...once you get that low there's only up.  



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:41 PM


As to the verbiage. IMO, shortening the verbiage does not make the huddle much shorter. It only takes a few seconds to call a play no matter how long the verbiage. It is getting the plays in quicker, added to the shortened verbiage, that gets us to the line quicker.

That, and with the shortened verbiage fewer players will be confused. When you know your roll, you play faster. I know most every player knows what those long play calls mean, but you can still be confused as to execution. I am hoping, as are many others, that the shorter verbiage equates to better execution because everyone should know their roll in the play. Less confusion is good.

 

 

DING! Ahhhhhh

 

 

so shorter verbiage translates having more time to do motions at the line and other general things to throw them off. Good for execution too, but I think this goes beyond that.




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