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#16 dos poptarts

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

On the adoption front, Rick Perry signed a policy, could actually be state law now,  that children adopted from Fostercare thru CPS (Child protective services) get their state school college education assistance/covered.

Wife & I went thru the PRIDE training, but actually got pregnant during approval process so our file was moved from active to nonactive. Still thinging about getting our infant a few siblings. But with CPS, the parental rights have been removed by a judge, so there's no back-n-forth. Not sure how mother's rights work when they voluntarily put their child up for adoption.

 

I've got no problem with the costs covered if giving up for adoption. Catholic Charities may actually cover that costs now if the mother wants to give up her child, I'd have to check.

 

 



#17 thefuzz

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:12 PM

What about readily available free birth control?

 

But the answer to the question is tough for me.  I am pro choice, and extremely fiscally conservative.



#18 Vampire the buffet slayer

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 08:20 PM

Would you be in favor for a law that gives free medical and prenatal care including short term disability to any woman that opts for adoption instead of abortion?




Flawed premise.


Nothing is free. Someone pays for it. At this point its China.

15 TRILLION in debt.

No more tax payer funded goverment programs.

So in a nutshell, no.

#19 twylyght

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

Would you be in favor for a law that gives free medical and prenatal care including short term disability to any woman that opts for adoption instead of abortion?

 

As a fiscally conservative and socially liberal person, I would say that it shouldn't be in the purview of the state to make anyone comply with someone else's beliefs.  Calling anything "free" is a misnomer as it takes resources to provide said care/benefits.  The individual receiving it may not pay for it with monetary funds, but it IS being paid for in time, funds, resources, etc by a number of people. 

 

If a company, organization, and/or individual wishes to provide those things it would be well within our rights to do exactly that as our own moral compases would guide us.  To invoke the "morality bludgeon" of the legal code is an anathema to liberty.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:26 AM

As a fiscally conservative and socially liberal person

 

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 05:35 AM

I was saying free to the pregnant woman you tards. We are all very aware that it isn't actually free.

#22 twylyght

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:44 AM

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I know you'd like to think that preferential treatment = fair where you would apply it... Most people that identify as "liberal" are actually nothing of the sort



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 06:46 AM

I was saying free to the pregnant woman you tards. We are all very aware that it isn't actually free.

 

If you think that people don't believe in things actually costing nothing, then you haven't looked outside your window today. 

 

I knew what you meant... wasn't my point



#24 mav1234

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:58 AM

As a fiscally conservative and socially liberal person, I would say that it shouldn't be in the purview of the state to make anyone comply with someone else's beliefs.  Calling anything "free" is a misnomer as it takes resources to provide said care/benefits.  The individual receiving it may not pay for it with monetary funds, but it IS being paid for in time, funds, resources, etc by a number of people. 

 

If a company, organization, and/or individual wishes to provide those things it would be well within our rights to do exactly that as our own moral compases would guide us.  To invoke the "morality bludgeon" of the legal code is an anathema to liberty.

 

Do you consider yourself pro choice or pro life?



#25 thatlookseasy

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:53 AM

Flawed premise.


Nothing is free. Someone pays for it. At this point its China.

15 TRILLION in debt.

No more tax payer funded goverment programs.

So in a nutshell, no.

 

Are you advocating for anarchy?



#26 Vampire the buffet slayer

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:17 AM

I meant no more as in no additional.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:20 AM

I meant no more as in no additional.

 

So what about an additional expense that saves money elsewhere in the budget?  Say, providing free birth control as a crazy hypothetical example



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:27 AM

We are all very aware that it isn't actually free.


I not sure a majority of the liberal minded in this country understands that it isnt free.

By labeling such things as "free" we perpetuate this idea.

15 trillion in debt tells me the general public dosent get it.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

You are so enlightened. You know things 10th grade civics students know.

#30 Vampire the buffet slayer

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:49 AM

You are so enlightened. You know things 10th grade civics students know.



Wow.


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