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Poll: huddle poll, Guilty or not Guilty George Zimmerman (77 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Guilty (30 votes [38.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.46%

  2. Not Guilty (48 votes [61.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.54%

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#1 carpantherfan84

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:41 PM

I dont know how to do a poll so a little help mods.

 

I am curious about what people are feeling is happening in this trial. I would post in the other thread but once again I dont know how to add a poll. 



#2 PhillyB

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:45 PM

based on the evidence presented i think it's pretty clear he's guilty of being a complete dumbfug and then consciously deciding to shoot a kid because of the situation he chose to put himself in



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:48 PM

thanks mods or phillyb or whomever helped.



#4 Mvp2014

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:49 PM

based on the evidence presented i think it's pretty clear he's guilty of being a complete dumbfug and then consciously deciding to shoot a kid because of the situation he chose to put himself in

Pretty much.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

I have a feeling that is isn't innocent, but I don't think that they will be able to prove murder 2.



#6 carpantherfan84

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:55 PM

The state expects to rest its case today.



#7 SZ James

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:18 PM

What I think he is or what I think the jury thinks he is?

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

either/or I guess. Im just interested in interpretations of the case as it has unfolded so far. I cannot for the life of me see why everyone is saying the prosecution is performing poorly.  So i want to see what everyone else thinks



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:28 PM

I personally think he's guilty of aggravated manslaughter at minimum.  Based on FL law, is he guilty of 2nd degree murder, idk?  I have not heard enough of the testimony/evidence to make an informed decision.

 

What is the jury going to think?  I think there's about a 50/50 chance he gets convicted.



#10 SZ James

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

I'm absolutely certain he's guilty.

I'm also fairly certain he will be deemed not guilty because its florida.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

 

Definition of Second Degree Murder

The crime of Second Degree Murder occurs when a person commits either:

Murder with a Depraved Mind

Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.

The primary distinction between Premeditated First Degree Murder and Second Degree Murder with a Depraved Mind is that First Degree Murder requires a specific and premeditated intent to kill.

Accomplice Felony Murder

Accomplice Felony Second Degree Murder occurs when you are an accomplice to a person who kills another human being while engaged in the commission, or attempted commission, of the following statutorily enumerated felonies, regardless of whether they intended the death:

 

 

 

http://www.richardho...html#Definition

 



#12 Kurb

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

Why in the fug didn't they charge ZimmZimm with Manslaughter?

 

http://www.ohioverti...d-manslaughter/

 

The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree ….

 

 

 

Thats a ton easier to prove.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

based on the evidence presented i think it's pretty clear he's guilty of being a complete dumbfug and then consciously deciding to shoot a kid because of the situation he chose to put himself in

 

I think he followed the kid.

I think that he followed the kid enough to piss the kid off.

I think he and the kid had an alteration of some sort.

I think the gun came out during the fight.

I think he is a dumbfug too.

 

 

 

 

All that said, I don't see how they can get him for Murder2 with the little bit of knowledge I have about the trial. Manslaughter looks like what they should have went after.



#14 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:45 PM

So (correct me if I'm wrong...) based on that first post by Kurb, GZ had to have intended to kill TM with "a depraved mind" and not been acting in self-defense (whether for real or perceived).

 

I think that in this situation, that is damned hard to prove.

 



#15 SZ James

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

@People that use the words "hard to prove"

Do you have an opinion on what happened


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