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#1 Jakob

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:53 AM

Tanking for a top 5 pick isn't going to help this team, yeah I know Wiggins and Parker will be coming out of the draft in 2014 but, the Bobcats have been tanking for nearly a decade now. If tanking worked we would have had a good team already. If tanking worked so well why did it take the Clippers 30 years to finally become an elite team. We need to stop thinking about. If we ever want to attract big name players we need to stop *tanking* every season... I just got pushed so far over the edge by reading again how we should be tanking. I can't even think clear enough to get my point across. Tanking cam be a good tactic every once in a while for a team like the panthers did to get Newton, or who we thought would be Luck at the time.

 

Fans don't want to but tickets of a losing team

 

Players don't want to play for a losing team

 

Players don't want to come to a losing team

 

I've been on this forum for god knows how many years now and every single fuging year... it's the same thing lets tank for this guy.. lets tank for that guy. Every time we did we passed up on the actual stars... If we want to be good team one day we need to start winning now.

 

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#2 carolina-chuck

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

We're going to be bad anyway that we don't even need to TANK. We can go out and play 110% each night and we'll still lose bc we're inexperienced and don't have enough depth.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

Nope, we need a star. Lebron not walking through that door. 



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:26 AM

our tanking has resulted in very unlucky choices in the draft.  

 

However, stock piling draft picks from other teams is a good way to get

a lottery pick while not tanking.

 

I'm trusting in Cho, partly because I have no other choice, and partly because I

think he is the right man for the job.

 

It's hard to throw away an entire NBA season for a chance at a player that hasn't

played a single game of college ball.



#5 carolina-chuck

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:38 AM

Who's the bad teams this upcoming season other than us? Sixers? Celtics? Orlando? Phoenix? Utah? Sac? Toronto?

I'm going to put Washington, Detriot, Milwaukee, and Cleveland ahead of these teams. All could make a hard push into the Playoffs next year.

So what's the differences between us (Buzzcats) compared to the teams above? Nothing, except that we added a top tier free agent (Al Jefferson) during the offseason.

Buzzcats: Jefferson, Kemba, MKG, Biymbo, Zeller, Sessions, Gordon, Hendo? McBob, Taylor

Sixers: Turner, MCW, Hawes, Young

Celtics: Rondo, Green, Bradley, Wallace, Bass, Humphries, Brooks, Lee, Sullinger, Crawford

Orlando: Vucevic, Nelson, Oladipo, Affalo, Davis, Hedo, Harrington, Nicholson, Harris, Harkless

Phoenix: Goran, Beasley, Gortat, Scola, Mashall, Morris Twins, Frye, Brown, Dudley, Len

Jazz: Favors, Kanter, Burke, Hayward, Jefferson, Burks, Evans, Biedrins

Kings: Thomas, Vasquez, Cousins, Lopez, Thorton, McLemore, Salmon, Fredette

Raptors: Gay, DeRozan, Jonas, Ross, Lowry, Fields


Other than Philly, I don't see much differences. Chill down on the Playoffs talk. We're still pretty BAD. Anyone who think we're better than these teams must be drunk. Slow down on the beers.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:40 AM

Nope, we need a star. Lebron not walking through that door.


Lebron is a once in a generation type player. All due respect to Andrew Wiggins, but even if we tank Lebron James isn't walking through that door.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:53 AM

Tanking for a top 5 pick isn't going to help this team, yeah I know Wiggins and Parker will be coming out of the draft in 2014 but, the Bobcats have been tanking for nearly a decade now.


If the bobcats have been tanking for a decade, then that is the worst attempt at tanking that I've ever seen. Because from 2007 until about 2011 they kept trading for expensive veterans who had an annoying habit of winning more games. J-Rich, Stephen Jackson, Boris Diaw, Tyson Chandler, Raja Bell make no sense on a team thats trying to tank.

Coincedently, this may have been why the bobcats did not draft above 8th from 2007 until the team actually started to tank and drafted MKG
 

If tanking worked we would have had a good team already. If tanking worked so well why did it take the Clippers 30 years to finally become an elite team. We need to stop thinking about.


If tanking worked and we had actually been tanking, then yes, we would have a good team by now

The Clippers were god awful for 30 years because Donald Sterling only cared about making money and didnt really give a poo about winning games. Looks like he had a change of heart and recently decided to win some games, and their years of ineptitude left them with high draft picks and enough pieces to trade for Chris Paul (and probably convince him to stay)

#8 Jakob

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:39 PM

Here is a short and true point, half the NBA thinks Wiggins is the next Lebron, while all these teams tank, the Buzz should try and sneak into the playoffs since probably a losing record would get you into the playoffs.



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

The players that everyone wants may not even pan out.  It's such a crap shoot.  Worst team hasn't got the #1 pick in years, it's just silly.   Can we just make a "one tank thread to rule them all" like Bobcats planet?



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 01:34 PM

I've only seen a handful of Wiggins games and some of those were all star games which are not real good for evaluating players.

But from the games I have seen I don't see the next Lebron James. The kid has am enormous amount of athleticism but at this point I don't see him as that transcendent player.

I look forward to seeing him.play more at the college level to get a better feel just how good a player he is and how much better he can be. Every two or three years we hear about the inevitable next great superstar who is coming out if high school but more times than not it usually doesn't end up that way.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:26 PM

The whole point of the shitty lottery in the NBA is to prevent teams from tanking.  Yet some teams suck so epically bad year after year, they tank without trying (ie: Bobcats).

 

Forget the tanking theory, if we can find any decent to elite players (free agents) that would actually sign and play here, then get them.  That should be our focus.  We'll still have a lottery pick most likely, get another solid piece and look for more free agents next summer.



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Posted 06 July 2013 - 03:58 PM

I've only seen a handful of Wiggins games and some of those were all star games which are not real good for evaluating players.

But from the games I have seen I don't see the next Lebron James. The kid has am enormous amount of athleticism but at this point I don't see him as that transcendent player.

I look forward to seeing him.play more at the college level to get a better feel just how good a player he is and how much better he can be. Every two or three years we hear about the inevitable next great superstar who is coming out if high school but more times than not it usually doesn't end up that way.

Agree. Remember Shabazz being referred as the best SG since Kobe? Remember Jabari Parker front cover of SI magazine as the best HS player since LBJ? It's just HYPE. I've seen very few YouTube highlights of Wiggins which I can't base everything off that but it'd be hard for him to be the next LBJ.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 04:11 PM

The little video clips of Wiggins Ive seen he reminds me of Tracy McGrady. They are both lanky athletic 2 guards. Now if Wiggins can be as good as Tmac in his prime he will be a great player but not Lebron level.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 04:17 PM

The little video clips of Wiggins Ive seen he reminds me of Tracy McGrady. They are both lanky athletic 2 guards. Now if Wiggins can be as good as Tmac in his prime he will be a great player but not Lebron level.


I agree.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

I just think it's great that people get all worked up about a draft a year from now. Did you know that on June 6th, 2012, NBADraft.net predicted that Charlotte with the #1 pick would choose Cody Zeller? They had Cody Zeller #1, Shabazz Muhammad #2 and well, Otto Porter at #14 to Houston. Hmmm

 

Does any of this matter?




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