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Its not racist when it's a fact?

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Since the 1960s critics of culture of poverty explanations for the persistence of the underclasses have attempted to show that real world data do not fit Lewis' model (Goode and Eames, 1996). In 1974, anthropologist Carol Stack issued a critique of it, calling it "fatalistic" and noticing the way that believing in the idea of a culture of poverty does not describe the poor so much as it serves the interests of the rich. She writes, "The culture of poverty, as Hylan Lewis points out, has a fundamental political nature. The ideas matters most to political and scientific groups attempting to rationalize why some Americans have failed to make it in American society. It is, Lewis (1971) argues, 'an idea that people believe, want to believe, and perhaps need to believe.' They want to believe that raising the income of the poor would not change their life styles or values, but merely funnel greater sums of money into bottomless, self-destructing pits." [2]

 

Thus, she demonstrates the way that political interests to keep the wages of the poor low create a climate in which it is politically convenient to buy into the idea of culture of poverty (Stack 1974). In sociology and anthropology, the concept created a backlash, pushing scholars to look to structures rather than "blaming-the-victim" (Bourgois, 2001). Since the late '90s, the culture of poverty has witnessed a resurgence in the social sciences, although most scholars now reject the notion of a monolithic and unchanging culture of poverty and attribute destructive attitudes and behavior not to inherent moral character but to sustained racism and isolation (Small M.L., Harding D.J., Lamont M., 2010).

 

culture of poverty is victim blaming and the idea that differences in achievement across races can be attributed solely to the effects of economic inequality ignores the effects of racism

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it's really a way of rationalizing the negative effects of capitalism through color-blind glasses

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culture of poverty is victim blaming and the idea that differences in achievement across races can be attributed solely to the effects of economic inequality ignores the effects of racism

 

Your self pity and constant deflect of ANY personal responsibility is actually downright amazing.

 

Much easier to blame everyone else than it is to look in the mirror and admit that much of the blame is staring straight back at you.

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Your self pity and constant deflect of ANY personal responsibility is actually downright amazing.

 

Much easier to blame everyone else than it is to look in the mirror and admit that much of the blame is staring straight back at you.

It's the blanket assumptions on both ends of the issue that are the problem IMO.

 

"Poor people will alway be poor because they are shitty at being middle class or w/e" is just as harmful as "Poor people will always be poor because the system won't allow them to succeed. The rich hold them down..etc"

 

Removing the actions by the Powers that Be that indeed to keep people "down" AND removing the commentary that "If you are poor you the climb up is SOOO Hard you need to be hand fed everything"  both need to happen and in a serious way for there to ever be any real equality. 

 

 

it's really a way of rationalizing the negative effects of capitalism through color-blind glasses

 

Seems to me it's more Class Blind Glasses

 

 

 

 

As for the OP.

 

Is any comment that is unfavorable about a minority group racist?

 

If its a statistical fact that there are more single Black mothers than any other race group why is it a bad thing to have commentary on that issue?

 

If a high number of the Hispanic population are illegals, why is it a bad thing to have commentary on that issue?

 

 

 

If we would be more apt to identify as Americans than Whites or African Americans, or w/e a ton of this poo would start dissolving away. Media and Government want to keep us "masses" bickering about our differences, harping on our deficiencies and generally in-fighting so they can continue raping us financially and emotionally.

 

 
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Don't mind him, he was just digging for his daily dose is persecution.

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so "is it a stereotype when its a fac"t?

 

The common definition of stereotype is taking something with some basis in fact and generalizing it to a larger population. So i think stereotypes and facts are somewhat mutually exclusive.

 

Example: Muslims are terrorists. The fact is that there are radical Muslims that are involved with terrorism. The generalization is that all Muslims are terrorists which is not factual.

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The common definition of stereotype is taking something with some basis in fact and generalizing it to a larger population. So i think stereotypes and facts are somewhat mutually exclusive.

Bingo. You get it.

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It is a fact that most people that shoot up schools are young white males.

 

It would be a stereotype to assume all young white males are school shooters.

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culture of poverty is victim blaming and the idea that differences in achievement across races can be attributed solely to the effects of economic inequality ignores the effects of racism

 

i think you're confusing the actuality of cyclical, inherited poverty with political entities who commandeer it in order to justify asshole policies. "culture of poverty" is not victim blaming, using culture of poverty as an excuse to tell the poors to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and reject measures of altruism is victim blaming.

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It is a fact that most people that shoot up schools are young white males.

It would be a stereotype to assume all young white males are school shooters.

The stereotype is thinking the race of the shooter is relevant.

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