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Best Answer CashNewton22, 09 July 2013 - 11:13 AM

Appreciate the conversation without flaming, lots of respected posters weighing in...

I'd like to reply to most of yous but I'm on my phone so I'm not....

@Frash & FootballCzar -I was going to post that in reply in the AM, thanks Emory...
@PhillyB -cant tell if serious/Futurama pic
@Cyberjag -it has been, will post link tomorrow...
@CashNewtn22 -like I said, I believe we will see 46 looks, it will not be our base D... "We're all out of bubblegum" if you will...


I got you man....hopefully we won't have to see to much of it but I'm positive it can be a great "change of pace" defense if you will from time to time. Go to the full post


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#31 MrPickles

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 12:53 PM

TCU's 4-2-5 defense is the best base D vs. the spread IMO.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 12:58 PM

Would it not make more sense to blitz more people when your DL individual talent is sub par? Mask your weakness.

 

If we assume that our DL plays to its potential than we should generate enough pressure with those 4 guys to want to play more coverage in order to generate more turnovers.

 

In theory I agree that we might use this formation a few times but our secondary is too suspect to want to leave them on their own. I would rather play traditional 43 D as our base.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 12:59 PM

Also, isn't every offensive or defensive formation unbeatable on paper?

 

 



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:03 PM

OK.  Three things. 

 

Number one - I enjoyed the video, it really explained a lot.  Pie for you.

Number two - The things it explained made me want to avoid it at almost all costs (too much risk).

Number three - I couldn't help but notice that your avatar in the #5 jersey looks similar to the guy doing the video.

 

Lol! Yep that's me during my UL Ragin Cajun days :)

 

If you're running the 46, you better have the secondary to make it work..otherwise, you'll get eaten alive



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:05 PM

Lol! Yep that's me during my UL Ragin Cajun days :)

 

If you're running the 46, you better have the secondary to make it work..otherwise, you'll get eaten alive

 

The Jets a few years back had the perfect team for this with Revis and Crom on the outside



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:06 PM

4-6 was good.... back in the 80's where running game was a priority



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:09 PM

thomas davis is really our only blitzing LBr and I'm not even sure if that's a strength of his



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:45 PM

it's 46, not 4-6

4-6 would imply 4 down linemen and 6 linebackers, leaving only one db lining up in the secondary

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:40 PM

Lol! Yep that's me during my UL Ragin Cajun days :)

If you're running the 46, you better have the secondary to make it work..otherwise, you'll get eaten alive


I salute you sir. I never had the guts to play the game...or the size, or speed, or strength, or skill.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:53 PM

Watch on Youtube, Miami vs. Chicago 1985. 31-10 at halftime.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:25 PM

I've seen replays of that game, mentioned it in my op.. I get that it was figured out. I think we are going to use it more in theory, relentless pressure, than as a regular formation. Some even said it here -"why rush 6 or 7 when you only need 4?" Or something thereabouts... It's a feeling I have, thought it was worth discussin, and it is. Lots of good point brought up in this thread, nahmean?

I absolutely appreciate all the replies, all the opinions, all the insight....

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:34 PM

TCU's 4-2-5 defense is the best base D vs. the spread IMO.

Commonly called a nickel defense.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:21 PM

A 46 with our secondary.

That's all I have to say.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:28 PM

Commonly called a nickel defense.


Nickle could also be 3-3-5, etc. Also I believe TCU employees 3 safeties which is different.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:39 PM

Nickle could also be 3-3-5, etc.

Correct.  You can also run a 3-3-5 and put one of your backers on the line to rush much like Harrison did for Pittsburgh and you have a 3-3-5 that functions just like a 4-2-5.  There are various options but what is constant is the 5 defensive backs which is the crucial part when defending the spread. Whether you play a 4-2 or a 3-3 isn't as important as having enough secondary defenders to cover all of the spread elements.




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