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#61 Rules&Regulations

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:09 PM

From the NFC South chat:

Cory (Johnson City): Pat, How can you have Bowers ranked ahead of Hardy on your top 25??? Surely must have been a mistaken omission?

PY: Not an omission. I expect Bowers to have a better season than Hardy.

Joel (NC): Pat, you know from my comments that while a Panthers fan, I am not a Homer. But I think you might be the only one on a very weak branch saying Bowers is going to outperform Hardy. I would go out on a limb and say Hardy will have the most productive season of any DE in the entire NFC South.

PY: You could end up being right. We'll see.

Allen (Ellenboro): I'm sorry pat but Bowers ahead of Hardy is nonsense. Hardy had 6.5 more sacks last year than Bowers has had in his entire career. I don't see Hardy regressing this year with the improved Panthers D -line and no way Bowers suddenly becomes an elite pass rusher.

PY: If I'm wrong, hit me up at the end of the season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/48932/film-of-the-nfc-south-chat-63

At least he admits he might be wrong.


The problem is, even IF (big if) Bowers has a better season than Hardy, that doesn't change the fact that Hardy is EASILY a t25 player in the NFCS. Basically, pat is just an idiot.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 10:00 AM

http://espn.go.com/b...h-top-25-no-9-2

The list so far (since we love offseason lists):
9 - Luke Keuchly, linebacker, Panthers
10 - Roddy White, wide receiver, Falcons
11 - Ryan Kalil, center, Panthers
12 - Carl Nicks, guard, Buccaneers
13 - Darren Sproles, running back, Saints
14 - Charles Johnson, defensive end, Panthers
15 - Gerald McCoy, defensive tackle, Buccaneers
16 - Vincent Jackson, wide receiver, Buccaneers
17 - Tony Gonzalez, tight end, Falcons
18 - Dashon Goldson, safety, Buccaneers
19 - Sean Weatherspoon, linebacker, Falcons
20 - Lavonte David, linebacker, Buccaneers
21 - Steve Smith, wide receiver, Carolina Panthers
22 - Steven Jackson, running back, Atlanta Falcons
23 - Josh Freeman, quarterback, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
24 - Marques Colston, wide receiver, New Orleans Saints
25 - Da'Quan Bowers, defensive end, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Still waiting for spots:

Matt Ryan, quarterback, Falcons
Julio Jones, wide receiver, Falcons
Drew Brees, quarterback, Saints
Jimmy Graham, tight end, Saints
Jahri Evans, offensive guard, Saints
Cam Newton, quarterback, Panthers
Greg Hardy, defensive end, Panthers
Jon Beason, linebacker, Panthers
Doug Martin, running back, Buccaneers
Darrelle Revis, cornerback, Buccaneers

I'm kind of feeling like Cam is the only remaining Panther that's going to make it. And it looks like Yas thinks the Bucs have 9 out of the top 25 players in the South.


If Bowers made the list Hardy should....but I don't expect anyone not named Cam or Hardy to have a shot

#63 Munch4455

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

The problem is, even IF (big if) Bowers has a better season than Hardy, that doesn't change the fact that Hardy is EASILY a t25 player in the NFCS. Basically, pat is just an idiot.

 

If Bowers made the list Hardy should....but I don't expect anyone not named Cam or Hardy to have a shot

 

 

Pat Y. most of his credibility a long time ago, this just shreds away at it even more.  How in your right mind, can you put a guy who has 38 tackles and 4.5 sacks over 2 seasons in the nfl, over a guy who had 61 tackles and 11 sacks just last season(over double the sacks bowers has had his first 2 seasons)?  Not to mention that Hardy's first two years in the league were better statistically by a pretty large margin than Bowers first two years. 

 

Break down on the list:(Projected number of players on the list)

Buccaneers: 9

Falcons: 6

Saints: 5

Panthers: 5

 

The fact that he has 9 Buc's on the list makes it a complete joke.  7 at most is what the Buc's should have.

 

PS: I would put Hardy on that list over Freeman all day as well.

 



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

Here's Yas' list from last year:

 

1. QB Drew Brees – Saints

2. G Carl Nicks – Buccaneers

3. TE Jimmy Graham – Saints

4. QB Cam Newton – Panthers

5. RB Darren Sproles – Saints

6. C Ryan Kalil – Panthers

7. G Jahri Evans – Saints

8. WR Steve Smith – Panthers

9. QB Matt Ryan – Falcons

10. DB Jabari Greer – Saints

11. WR Julio Jones – Falcons

12. DB Brent Grimes – Falcons

13. RB DeAngelo Williams – Panthers

14. LB Curtis Lofton – Saints

15. LB Sean Weatherspoon – Falcons

16. WR Vincent Jackson – Buccaneers

17. RB Jonathan Stewart – Panthers

18. DE Charles Johnson – Panthers

19. WR Roddy White – Falcons

20. S Malcolm Jenkins – Saints

21. LB Jon Beason – Panthers

22. QB Josh Freeman – Buccaneers

23. RB Michael Turner – Falcons

24. DE Adrian Clayborn – Buccaneers

25. WR Marques Colston – Saints

 

Kind of speaks for itself...



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

Well im glad Luke is getting the attention he deserves, he is a monster on the field!! Most of the others rankings are crap though....



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:33 PM

The problem is, even IF (big if) Bowers has a better season than Hardy, that doesn't change the fact that Hardy is EASILY a t25 player in the NFCS. Basically, pat is just an idiot.

 

I agree that I would personally put Hardy over some of the guys on the list but it is very subjective and at least he said that he could be wrong.  How can you compare a DE to a QB to a kicker to a CB anyways.




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