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Article claiming Panthers should NOT decrease read option usage next season



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#1 Gabeking

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:13 PM

http://www.coldhardf...9-record/23378/

Just a disclaimer this guy is a huge Cam hater, as evidenced by his previous articles regarding him..(Im not gonna post that garbage..) What do you all think? IMO it's just more of the same from him: more stats without context.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

The read option was not the issue last season.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:36 PM

Looking back, The Read Option wasn't the issue. It was Chud and his ego.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:47 PM

Also feel like I have to point out for the bazzillionth time that 4QC and GWD are both very deeply flawed stats that can be manipulated completely by things out of a QBs control. Both for the QBs benefit or his detriment.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 05:51 PM   Best Answer

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:37 PM

Looking back, The Read Option wasn't the issue. It was Chud and his ego.


When we ran it and the amount we ran it absolutely was a problem early last year.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:56 PM

Its fine now. Whats done is done. Let the league know that Cam can do that if he has to. Let them all account for that.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 07:07 PM

I don't care what the average stats say.  Just watch a game from last year and you can see how ineffective it was.  

 

The guy who wrote this seriously downplayed the negative plays we had as a result.  Those negative plays kill drives and leave points off the board.  I would say you'd need 50 yards of offense to negate one -5 yard play.  That's how impactful those plays are.  



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:39 PM

First of all it might have been a small percentage of all plays but it was almost 40% of all running plays which is way too many for one set.  It was also a good portion of our negative running plays which kills drives when you end up in 2nd and long or 3rd and long.

 

The point that wasn't discussed at all was that in the first half of the year we not only used the read option but we had made the various reads very complicated sometimes keying off the DE, sometimes the DT, sometimes the linebackers which slowed Newton down and was one of  the reasons he was so ineffective.  I also remember a discussion where the blocking scheme on the read option was very different from how we blocked other running plays or pass blocking essentially telegraphing when we were going to use the read option.  All defenders had to do was see how the OT blocked and they could tell what play we were going to run  and to what side which is why it got blown up so often.

 

So the whole premise that the read option wasn't the problem based on quantity and yards per play is rather simplistic and doesn't account at all for the problems we had with the read option and why we improved so much. Clearly the author had an agenda when he started out and fit his whole discussion to support what he already believed to be true. Not unlike many arguments by posters on this site.



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 09:27 PM

I don't care what the average stats say. Just watch a game from last year and you can see how ineffective it was.

The guy who wrote this seriously downplayed the negative plays we had as a result. Those negative plays kill drives and leave points off the board. I would say you'd need 50 yards of offense to negate one -5 yard play. That's how impactful those plays are.


Pretty much.

It's a lot of mental gymnastics to say "it's not the system, it's Newton". To make that point, you have to significantly downplay that Newton and the offense improved greatly as the Read Option was minimized.


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