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Why do you think we are a + 7 win team?


Best Answer KendrickPanther, 11 July 2013 - 01:50 AM

I can appreciate the excitement that a lot of you have about 2013. I can understand the theory that our front 7 will negate the need for a strong back end of the defense. I can wrap my arms around our QB and MLB as the future. But I can't come to grips with the 10-11 win/playoff talk. I need you 9+ win prognosticators to sell me on why you think we will get to that total or beyond. I don't want anecdotal evidence, I want solid reasons. Start with our schedule, then look at our coaching staff, then look at our DBs and our oline and tell me how they add up to anything other than a .500 win total.

The winning post that can sell me gets an authentic Otah jersey for $50.

 

Because I couldn't make it through the summer knowing there is a turd at the end of the tunnel. I always expect big things, even in 2010 Jimmy Clausen was going to be the next Joe Montana. There is no reasoning. There is no logic. I believe the Panther will be good the way some people believe Jesus walked the Earth. I have no evidence but I believe.

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#31 Montsta

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

Let it go SCP. You'll never be able to sell that Otah jersey for even $10.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:49 PM

I also look at the 49ers. For the last decade they have been very similar to us. Lower-tier team that wasn't doing a whole lot of anything particularly well. In just the blink of an eye they have gone to two NFCCG and one SB. There is no reason for me to believe that no other teams are capable of that. Carolina has drafted well, produced tons of homegrown talent, and has shredded some horrible contracts. We have star players at many, many positions, and the lack of household names in our secondary doesn't scare me one bit as far as how good our defense is going to be.

#33 Cyberjag

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:03 PM

I also look at the 49ers. For the last decade they have been very similar to us. Lower-tier team that wasn't doing a whole lot of anything particularly well. In just the blink of an eye they have gone to two NFCCG and one SB. There is no reason for me to believe that no other teams are capable of that. Carolina has drafted well, produced tons of homegrown talent, and has shredded some horrible contracts. We have star players at many, many positions, and the lack of household names in our secondary doesn't scare me one bit as far as how good our defense is going to be.

 

That really gives me a lot of hope.  Wasn't there some final piece of the puzzle they added though?  They had this ex-Bears Linebacker as coach also, right? 

 

Hmm...  What did they do that we haven't?



#34 SCP

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

Let it go SCP. You'll never be able to sell that Otah jersey for even $10.


Some day you're gonna see a homeless guy begging for food in an authentic Otah jersey. That or you will see me tie it off, fill it with bars of soap, and beat the crap out of a Saints fan with it.

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

-that pick 6 was on a timing route were smitty slipped coming out of his break. but, why throw that type of route vs a team who plays cover 2 base? that is on coaching, and any cb playing in the NFL would pick that.

 

 

no way can that pick 6 be blamed on coaching, yea smitty slipped but Cam still threw it there.  I don't know what the other routes were on that play, but the out route smitty was running could have cleared out another route over top.  that game in general, along with the second tampa game was the epitome of our season.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:08 PM

I also look at the 49ers. For the last decade they have been very similar to us. Lower-tier team that wasn't doing a whole lot of anything particularly well. In just the blink of an eye they have gone to two NFCCG and one SB. There is no reason for me to believe that no other teams are capable of that. Carolina has drafted well, produced tons of homegrown talent, and has shredded some horrible contracts. We have star players at many, many positions, and the lack of household names in our secondary doesn't scare me one bit as far as how good our defense is going to be.

 

 

 I think coaching has a lot to do with the 49ers success.



#37 Steven Smiff

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:29 PM

The Panthers will be a ten win team this season for one reason. Cameron Jerrell Newton

 



#38 Navy_football

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

7+ wins should be doable. Don't see any reason why this team can't win 9 games this season. Let the horses out of the barn (RBs) and use less slow developing pass/run plays when teams are blitzing you every down. Chud's playcalling really was bad the first half of the season and that can not be emphasized enough.

 

Now getting to the playoffs is the real goal. And you only need to have a better record than the other three teams in the division to do that. Judging by last season, I think the Panthers are the best team in the division. 7 of their 9 losses can be attributed to inexperienced youth. Cam, Luke, Amini, Norman, etc. are more able to make the necessary plays now because they're more experienced. The talent was always there, knowledge and experience was the problem.

 

Alot of people wanted to draft a CB or WR early in the draft. But Star and Short provide the best recipe for stifling a Brees or Ryan offense. Make them one dimensional (stop the run), and provide middle pressure to the QBs. Shorter and/or less mobile QBs have a hard time with a pass rush in their face.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:17 PM

no way can that pick 6 be blamed on coaching, yea smitty slipped but Cam still threw it there.  I don't know what the other routes were on that play, but the out route smitty was running could have cleared out another route over top.  that game in general, along with the second tampa game was the epitome of our season.

 

knowing that a team runs cover 2 base defense were the CB zone is to sit in the flat, why would you have a timing route designed to go the flat? coaching called that play, so how is it not there fault? also remember this was the time, that Cam had to run the exact play, and not audible out of the call. my rewind will be renewed next month, so hopefully i can get a better look at the play with coaches film.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:18 PM

I also look at the 49ers. For the last decade they have been very similar to us. Lower-tier team that wasn't doing a whole lot of anything particularly well. In just the blink of an eye they have gone to two NFCCG and one SB. There is no reason for me to believe that no other teams are capable of that. Carolina has drafted well, produced tons of homegrown talent, and has shredded some horrible contracts. We have star players at many, many positions, and the lack of household names in our secondary doesn't scare me one bit as far as how good our defense is going to be.

 

Harbaugh has a lot to do with this.Singletary brought toughness, and Jim brought the decision making.



#41 thefuzz

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:56 PM

Five Reasons for Over 7:

 

1. Health (Kalil and Beason)

 

2. Much improved D-Line

 

3. Cam and Rivera in their 3rd years

 

4. New Offensive Coordinator (Chud got too cute last year)

 

5. Mental mistakes cost us a shot at 10 wins last year

 

 

 

5 Reasons for Under 7:

 

1. O-Line

 

2. Injuries (one injury to Smith or Gross could be lethal)

 

3. New Offensive Coordinator (yes I know could be good or bad)

 

4. Secondary

 

5. Schedule

 

 



#42 Frash Brastard

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 04:30 PM

That really gives me a lot of hope. Wasn't there some final piece of the puzzle they added though? They had this ex-Bears Linebacker as coach also, right?

Hmm... What did they do that we haven't?


We have to wait for Ron to bench his best offensive player for insubordination first

#43 nationofdomination

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 05:05 PM

I also look at the 49ers. For the last decade they have been very similar to us. Lower-tier team that wasn't doing a whole lot of anything particularly well. In just the blink of an eye they have gone to two NFCCG and one SB. There is no reason for me to believe that no other teams are capable of that. Carolina has drafted well, produced tons of homegrown talent, and has shredded some horrible contracts. We have star players at many, many positions, and the lack of household names in our secondary doesn't scare me one bit as far as how good our defense is going to be.

you're comparing the panthers roster to the 49ers? their roster man for man is widely regarded as the best in football. your picture looks familiar, are you an original member of FREDDIE AND THE DREAMERS?



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:35 PM

the only thing about the team that legitimately scares me is the right side of the offensive line.



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:57 PM

Positions which have massive strengths can be manipulated into doing very nasty things when you have a crapton of athleticism at the spot. A spot our coach knows well and a spot where we have 3 absolute beasts. . .  like saaaaay, LB.

 

No one knows how well our D will function yet, but when a coach has extra firepower, he might be inclined to do things that have never been done before systematically. There no telling how Chico is going to use his new chips but I have a feeling it could be special.




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