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Am I the only Panther fan that would sign Hakeem Nicks over Hardy?


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#1 CharlottePanther

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:47 PM

Everyone on here and other Panther sites alike all want to us to pay big money and lock up Hardy for the long term. This whole situation is Jonathan Stewart 2.0. Back before we signed Stewart, everyone was itching for the news that we locked him up, when we did lock him up, all the Panther fans jumped up for joy and all problems solved and Hurney was looked upon like a god.

Fast forward to now and its a well known joke amongst Panther fans that we have all this money tied up in the RB position and the same Panther fans that rejoiced when we signed Stewie are the same Panther fans that called for Hurney's head and continue to bash all the money we have tied up in the RB position now.

BTW, just for the record. I was against extending Stewie then and I got ridiculed for it and I was in the minority. Well here we are now. Same exact situation. We have a ton of money tied up in one DE already (Charles Johnson) we have a promising up and coming Frank Alexander, we re signed our 6 sack DT in DWAN and oh BTW we drafted two DTs in the first two rounds of the draft. Meanwhile, we have one of the best young QBs in the league with only a 34 year old stud WR to show for it and HUGE question marks at WR beyond that.

Which brings me to Hakeem Nicks. Nicks is still young, a consistent, number 1 WR who is proven and would be an immense upgrade to our offense and WR corps. We are stacked at defense, quite possibly the best LB corps in the league, a stout and deep D line. What we dont have is another legit WR aside from Smitty that can be the future weapon for Cam for years to come.

Surely I cant be the only Panther fan that sees this as the same exact situation we where in last season before we signed Stewie. Havent we learned by now not to tie up all your money in a position you are already deep at when you have glaring needs elsewhere? Panther fans should know this more than anyone.

And let me just go on the record and state this has nothing to do with Hardy. No doubt he is one of the top 4-3 ends in the league and love his personality on the field. This has to do with our current situation as a team. Im not a Hardy hater by any stretch, a fantastic DE, I just think we have glaring need at WR.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:52 PM

I would say yes. You may be the only one. Or not.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:53 PM

What? Hardy hasn't had problems staying healthy like Stewart has, poor comparison.

 

Btw, Nicks has his own injury history too. To answer your question. Yes, you are.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:56 PM

I'd rather let both Stewart and Deangelo go before losing the Kraken.  In this league pass rushers are at a premium.  Keep Hardy.  Push hard for Nicks.  Outside of Cam, CJ, Luke, Smitty. Kalil, Kraken everyone is expendable.  



#5 Judo Thoreau

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

Two great DEs are more valuable than one great DE and a good to potentially great WR. Just my opinion.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:02 PM

A WR over a DE of roughly equivalent talent (if not a little more, maybe)?  Yea, you're the only one.  Not to even mention Nicks' injury history and Kraken's relative lack of one. 



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:09 PM

I'm on the Kracken side of this deal. High quality WR's almost never make it out of contract, and no I don't believe that HN is worth breaking open the check book for. Remember we are already over the cap for next year w/o a Kracken contract..



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:09 PM

You are not alone. They're homers they want anybody that has a decent season to stay in a panthers uniform. They tend to overvalue players a lot here.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:10 PM

As has been said by many in this thread. Why would you let Hardy go for someone who has been struggling with injuries? If Hardy had the same injury issues then maybe but that is not the case so I'd say no.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:14 PM

As has been said by many in this thread. Why would you let Hardy go for someone who has been struggling with injuries? If Hardy had the same injury issues then maybe but that is not the case so I'd say no.


Ofcourse other factors at play here. Say if Hardy has a great year and Nicks underwhelms then ofcourse that changes my thinking. Or say Lafell breaks out and has a 800 plus yd season, that also would come into play.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:23 PM

Ofcourse other factors at play here. Say if Hardy has a great year and Nicks underwhelms then ofcourse that changes my thinking. Or say Lafell breaks out and has a 800 plus yd season, that also would come into play.

 

Nicks has not played 16 games ever in a regular season. Last year, he played 13, in those games, he had more receptions than lafell but got as many yards as Lafell. By receiving yards, Nicks ranked 56th in the NFL. On the other hand, Hardy ranked 14th in the NFL by sacks alone.

 

Based on last year alone, why would you go let someone who is performing at his position, ie, Hardy go for someone who is doing the same as Lafell?



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:36 PM

We'd have to be getting an all star WR still on the upswing of his career to justify letting go of an upswinging DE of Hardy's caliber.  DE is just such a more important position than WR.  Nicks is good, but he's not nearly good enough to justify letting go of Hardy.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:42 PM

Pretty much.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:59 PM

Can Nicks play DE if yes then I'm all for it.....



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:09 AM

On hindsight, Hurndog used the franchise tag completely wrong that offseason. Should have tagged DLo and just ponied up the ridiculous contract Kalil got anyway (and for the record, I'm not against Kalil being re-signed at all). Tagging DLo would have been smart. Needed to ensure a quality backfield to help what we all knew would be Cam with the first pick. Granted, he ended up not needing it, but the best way to help a young QB (not named pickles) succeed is a great ground game. Double Trouble was mandatory, but with age and recent performance factored in, DLo should have been a 1 yr tag and release with Stew the long term goal all along. That's just being proactive I suppose, and Hurney was at his best being reactive. I use the term "best" lightly. Locking up Stew was the right choice. DLo was questionable from the get go.

As for the Hardy situation, well I'll take two dominant DE's over a big contract injury concern WR any day.

Only time will tell, and it's easy to look in hindsight and say what we should have done. Revisionist history is too easy to expose flaws in real time dilemmas and decisions.

To answer your question, you're probably not the only fan who thinks that. I just question signing a what will be 26 yr old aging WR to a big contract over signing a what will be 25 yr old lunatic of a DE just now coming into his own to a big contract. DE's typically last longer than WR's, and are more of a premium position.

Finding a top notch WR is our next big priority, yes, but not at the expense of what Hardy can bring to the table. I guess we'll see If Greg was a flash in the pan last year or if he gets 50 sacks. At the same time, let's see how Nicks does in his contract year.

Sorry for my bad grammar and typos, I'm intoxicated.

Much love from San Diego. Go Panthers!!!


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