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Ryan is a $100 million man, what do you expect for Cam?


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#37 Cary Kollins

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:37 PM

Right me Cam wouldn't get a deal like that.

 

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

Ryan is the beneficiary of that somewhat ridiculous Flacco contract.  Like Flacco, Ryan is a very good player who has had consistent regular-season success with a strong supporting cast.  Unlike Flacco, Ryan has shown next to nothing in the playoffs. 

 

As for Cam, agree with the previous posters who said this year is the linchpin.  A great year could easily result in a similar contract, if not more becuase his ceiling is so high.

 

It's not just being a 'beneficiary' of  the Flacco deal, though. Think about some of the QB's that have re-signed this summer. Flacco, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Romo, there's big time money being dished out right now for QBs and it's honestly seeming like not as much of a trend, but a new standard for franchise QB money that's being set for the future. It's scary to teams like us that haven't locked their star QBs up yet.

 

And it has to get more complicated as you look at other teams. Now, a lot of guys aren't going to get 100 mil deals, but the money is jumping from a situation where you would once pay 50 or 60 to now looking at 70 or 80, maybe 90. Does Cincy want to pay Dalton that kind of money? What about StL reupping Bradford? Chicago with Cutler? Phillip Rivers? Things could get interesting.
 



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:46 PM

dexter holland may now be the second-richest noodles



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:09 PM

How much money he gets all depends on if he wins or not.  Matt Ryan has made the playoffs 4 out of the 5 years he's been a starter.  Cam is 0-2.  I really hope he doesn't LeBron us and leave, because the Panthers sure have done a good job not bringing him any help on offense.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

If we have another 6-10 or 7-9 season, or at least don't return to the play offs, his deal may be less than that. If we have a winning season and make the play offs, perhaps even win a game or two, then it could be quite similar or better.

Ultimately it is difficult to say because Cam is still finding his way. Ryan is now a qb that has led his team to 4 or 5 play off appearances, division titles, and were close to getting to the super bowl. Right now Ryan is far ahead of Cam. Cam has to prove he can close that gap and lead this team to contention. Time will tell.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:30 PM

Falcons overpaid. Dude is not a 100mil QB



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:35 PM

There are a lot of haters here. There have been in the playoffs 4 or the past five years, whether he is tom brady or not he is doing well.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:17 PM

With the kind of cap hit Ryan's gonna have on the Falcan'ts salary cap, if they don't win it this year I bet Steven Jackson and Osi Uminyora are one-and-done.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:25 PM

It's not just being a 'beneficiary' of  the Flacco deal, though. Think about some of the QB's that have re-signed this summer. Flacco, Matt Ryan, Stafford, Romo, there's big time money being dished out right now for QBs and it's honestly seeming like not as much of a trend, but a new standard for franchise QB money that's being set for the future. It's scary to teams like us that haven't locked their star QBs up yet.

 

And it has to get more complicated as you look at other teams. Now, a lot of guys aren't going to get 100 mil deals, but the money is jumping from a situation where you would once pay 50 or 60 to now looking at 70 or 80, maybe 90. Does Cincy want to pay Dalton that kind of money? What about StL reupping Bradford? Chicago with Cutler? Phillip Rivers? Things could get interesting.
 

 

I'd certainly feel better about paying Cam 100 mil than Dalton, Bradford, Cutler or Rivers. Good point.

 

Ryan may not have won many playoff games but I think his regular season statistics definitely make him worthy of that money.

 

I think Cam will be too. Hopefully the D will step up enough this year that over the next two draft years we can draft some quality talent to grow with Cam like Dalton and Ryan have. Smitty can't play forever unfortunately.

 

Truth be told, I was a big fan of drafting Short in round two, I was happy about that. I was projecting a Vaccaro/Short draft for us. But i'll be watching Keenan Allens career very closely in San Diego.

 

I was wanting Jeffery or Sanu in round two of last year draft. If I was the Panther GM id have already drafted our 2 WR's to grow with Cam and addressed the G's in FA. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds at WR for us.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:39 PM

With the kind of cap hit Ryan's gonna have on the Falcan'ts salary cap, if they don't win it this year I bet Steven Jackson and Osi Uminyora are one-and-done.

 

Bar the addition of SJ I think their offseason is already evidence of that cap hit.

 

Not much in the DE department and a pair of rookie corners are going to see a lot of playing time, might not be the year the Falcons think they are in for.

 

The O is as talented as it gets in the skill positions though.



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:41 PM

If we make a deep playoff run( I believe we will) obviously these numbers escalate, but I'm going to say 4 years 65 mil for cam

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:50 PM

Cam has already passed for almost 8,000 yards and another 1,400 rushing and accounted for over 60 TD's.

 

He was originally signed on a relatively cheap rookie deal. Dude is gonna get paid, you might as well get used to the idea now. He will sign for over 100 mill.

 

I realize the wins aren't where we want them to be yet. But this team has had to rebuild the D too. I really expect this year to be huge in our development for the future. The rule of 3 is important for HC's.