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The mistake that will come back to haunt us MKG over Barnes?

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Yea, i'll keep you guys posted, i'll try to arrange it for a game against Golden State.  

 

that would be GREAT

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I remember Jordan asking Pippen in post games, if he was sick, and pointing to his stat line, Jordan used to hound his ass, he hounded everyones ass.

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Point, blank, period though, its to early to tell, wait till MKG is around 23, 24 years old, then compare.

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Chuck wants to debate with Skip Bayless.

And YOLO! I never said MKG is Pippen...but compare PIppens rookie season with MKG.

I am old enough to remember when struggle with shooting and was getting yelled at by Jordan early in his career bc he could not shoot. Then he started getting a bank shot and to the point where he could extend comfortabally to the three point line.

It was at least a three-four year process for him.

As far as Barnes to Sean Elliot..Elliot was a much more developed guy his early seasons...

My Danny Green comparison was to calm Chuck's proclaimation that Barnes was Paul Pierce.

At this point Barnes is comprable to Danny Green in what he produces on the court. Yes Barnes will be better...but at this time...he is a similar player. 9-10 points a game 4 rebounds 43-45% from the field.

 

Ninja, you gotta be just STUPID if you really believe that Green is on the same level as Barnes.

 

 

 

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Point, blank, period though, its to early to tell, wait till MKG is around 23, 24 years old, then compare.

 

Jai, you seem like you know some real basketball other than a bunch of died hard cats fans like myself, ninja, and kat. So, I would like to ask you that with what you have seen from Barnes and Green, can we even 'compare' the two on the same level??? Imo, it's ridiculous and insane to compare Barnes with Green when Barnes is clearly a much better player in all areas except probably behind the 3 point range.

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Jai, you seem like you know some real basketball other than a bunch of died hard cats fans like myself, ninja, and kat. So, I would like to ask you that with what you have seen from Barnes and Green, can we even 'compare' the two on the same level??? Imo, it's ridiculous and insane to compare Barnes with Green when Barnes is clearly a much better player in all areas except probably behind the 3 point range.

 

Green isn't a bad player, at all.  Barnes has higher ceiling, but you also have to take into account the TEAM around these individual players. Green has an advantage that Barnes doesn't, he has a big that demands a double, so the spacing, ball movement, and they play some selfless basketball, for a basketball purist, watching the spurs is like watching poetry in motion.  Comparing skill sets though, Barnes is a better athlete, he already has the mid-range game that is a lost art in the game.  The 1-2 dribble pull up, Barnes has all that.   Green is blessed to play in that system, just like Barnes is blessed to be the 3rd option on his team.  Ceiling wise, Barnes takes the nod, but as of today, it's a wash with those two guys, they have similar roles, at this point in their careers.  Green did absolutely nothing with his first  few stints in the league, where as, I feel like Barnes would've stuck with those same opportunities.

 

Potential - Barnes

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Green isn't a bad player, at all.  Barnes has higher ceiling, but you also have to take into account the TEAM around these individual players. Green has an advantage that Barnes doesn't, he has a big that demands a double, so the spacing, ball movement, and they play some selfless basketball, for a basketball purist, watching the spurs is like watching poetry in motion.  Comparing skill sets though, Barnes is a better athlete, he already has the mid-range game that is a lost art in the game.  The 1-2 dribble pull up, Barnes has all that.   Green is blessed to play in that system, just like Barnes is blessed to be the 3rd option on his team.  Ceiling wise, Barnes takes the nod, but as of today, it's a wash with those two guys, they have similar roles, at this point in their careers.  Green did absolutely nothing with his first  few stints in the league, where as, I feel like Barnes would've stuck with those same opportunities.

 

Potential - Barnes

Sorry I doubted your basketball knowledge, you definitely know your stuff.

 

I'm impressed! Good to have another knowledgeable fan on the board, and not some biased Know It All.

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Green isn't a bad player, at all.  Barnes has higher ceiling, but you also have to take into account the TEAM around these individual players. Green has an advantage that Barnes doesn't, he has a big that demands a double, so the spacing, ball movement, and they play some selfless basketball, for a basketball purist, watching the spurs is like watching poetry in motion.  Comparing skill sets though, Barnes is a better athlete, he already has the mid-range game that is a lost art in the game.  The 1-2 dribble pull up, Barnes has all that.   Green is blessed to play in that system, just like Barnes is blessed to be the 3rd option on his team.  Ceiling wise, Barnes takes the nod, but as of today, it's a wash with those two guys, they have similar roles, at this point in their careers.  Green did absolutely nothing with his first  few stints in the league, where as, I feel like Barnes would've stuck with those same opportunities.

 

Potential - Barnes

 

I agree. And the thing I see is that Barnes can play in the post/paint, has the mid range, behind the 3 mark, and can drive to the basket. When I look at Green, he's solely a 3 point specialist.

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I agree. And the thing I see is that Barnes can play in the post/paint, has the mid range, behind the 3 mark, and can drive to the basket. When I look at Green, he's solely a 3 point specialist.

 

 

So you agree that as of today comparing the two is a wash? The exact opposite of what you said earlier.. 

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When their careers are over, Barnes will be much better, he has better size, which will allow him to play in the post, back to the basket, once his handle comes around, he'll be so much fun to watch, I won't lie to you guys, the top 2 guys I wanted in that draft were as follows :

 

My board for the cats looked like this....

 

1. Drummond

2. Barnes was a close second

3. MKG

4. Lillard(im a big Kemba fan, but even Ray Charles could see, that this kid was special.)

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