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Barnwell Goes After Beason and Johnsons Contracts


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#11 frash.exe

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:28 PM

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A WHOLE PIE!

Forcing Atlanta to settle for Ray Edwards on a 30 mil deal makes it worth the CJ extension alone

When you throw in the fact that he's a really good DE...

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:29 PM

Uh, Julius Peppers anyone? That contract he signed was worse than Johnson's and he's played worse than Johnson.


Someone take this phrase fashion it into a club and beat the writer of this article in the face with it until he forms a proper opinion.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:31 PM

We signed Johnson because we didn't want him going to Atlanta. Although, that whole thing was probably him blowing smoke up the Panther's asses. He played Hurney like a fiddle.

Beason was a top 5 MLB before being injured.


Atlanta was very legitimately going after Johnson. He lives in atlanta, went to UGA, and lots of people here assumed it was a done deal.

Then hurney came down and made it raaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiinn

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

Agree with those that said Beason's was a bad contract.  Johnson has been a great player that until Hardy emerged in 2012 was really him and no one else.  He was constantly double teamed in 2011 and still had double digit sacks. Even last year without a big middle presence he still got doubled too much.  All that is about to change.  The sacks are going up this year but it is because of a middle presence and more linebackers who are not being shuffled in from series to series.  Also Johnson's contract was so big because of our disasterous 2010 and the fact he was the highest rated FA DE when his contract was up.  Imagine if he hadn't paid Johnson, it would been disasterous to the whole team.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:33 PM

We signed Johnson because we didn't want him going to Atlanta. Although, that whole thing was probably him blowing smoke up the Panther's asses. He played Hurney like a fiddle.

Beason was a top 5 MLB before being injured.

I'm pretty sure CJ's own family was even pressuring him to sign with Atlanta.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:43 PM

A 2-14 team overpaying to resign their best defensive player is what they had to do.  CJ has been dominant at times, and above all else, very consistent.  He would have made the Pro Bowl the last 2 years in a bigger market.

 

It's hard to properly reflect on someone's tenure until they're gone for a while, but the longer Hurney is away, the better some of his drafting seems, and the worse the extensions seem.

 

The Delhomme/ 2009 keeping the band together contracts never really bothered me b/c they were dumped in 2010.  Although in retrospect it is fair to say the team did not do everything they could have to put the most competitive team on the field that year.  But with Fox, the lockout, etc., it was definitely a year to forget.

 

I understand JJR wanting to open his pocketbooks in 2011 to make a point, and Hurney was ready to spend.  With underused, at least Williams & Stewart's production has still been there.  The ROI on Beason is as bad as a contract can get.  I love #52, but any criticism about that deal is justified, at least as of today.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:46 PM

Atlanta was very legitimately going after Johnson. He lives in atlanta, went to UGA, and lots of people here assumed it was a done deal.

Then hurney came down and made it raaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiinn

 

We probably did overpay Johnson by $2M or so a season.  But, at the time it was either that or watch him walk.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:53 PM

Atlanta was very legitimately going after Johnson. He lives in atlanta, went to UGA, and lots of people here assumed it was a done deal.

Then hurney came down and made it raaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiinn

 

Pretty much.

 

His deal was not only for his future pointing up for all of his career here, it was also to keep from having to see him beat the dog poo out of Bell twice a season for the past 3 years.

 

CJ is worth that deal, he's arguably better than Hardy.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

D-Will was a bad deal.

The Kicker that shall not be Named was a bad deal.

Signing a UNHEALTHY Beason was a bad deal.

 

CJ, Olsen, Kalil were not bad deals.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:59 PM

Johnson is a work horse defensive end who's good against the run and pass and is good for 10 sacks a year. He's worth the contract. Besides every huge contract gets restructured a couple years down the road. He also stays healthy and doesn't slack ass only to rack up a bunch of sacks against crap teams like that one guy in Chicago.




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