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What exactly is the point of running a conservative offense?!?

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The point is to maximize time of possession and limit turnovers. It can be an effective strategy if the team has a strong defense and special teams coupled with an efficient but not necessarily potent QB and offense.

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Atlanta literally made it to the NFCC game on 82 yards rushing a game. Baltimore's running game was average at best. Green Bay and New England are not rushing teams and they found some success in the playoffs.

It is no longer a requirement.

New England was beat by the Ravens, who were 11th in rushing (above average) and Green Bay and Atlanta were beaten by the 9ers who were 4th in rushing.
I realize that it's not a requirement to make the playoffs, and I'm not advocating foxball, but I don't have a problem with more conservative that what we've seen the last two years.

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Our passing attack isn't conservative at all. Running the ball sets up the pass. It's not like running the ball sets up the run.

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You have to step back and look at the big picture--QB, TD scorers, Big guys, and Pass Rushers.

 

We have the QB (Newton)

We have the TD Scorers (Smith, Olsen, Lafell, Ginn, Barner, Tolbert, Williams)

We have the pass rushers (Alexander, Hardy, Johnson, and the LBs)

We have the big guys (Gross, Silatolu, Kalil, Short, Star, Edwards, Cole, Kearse)

Well, we are missing one or two big guys on offense, but we are getting there.

 

Since the focus was on Defense in the draft (Star, Short,  Klein) and seemingly in free agency (Blackburn, Florence, Mitchell, Moore, Cole, Edwards, Munnerlyn), then it makes sense that we are going to have a patient offense and not a "come from behind" offense.  I think we will have better field position and a better, fresher defense.  These things allow you to be less conservative. 

 

Frankly, If the DBs continue to scrap, and I think they will be fine, and we get a RG at least, I have to wonder where we are weak.  I expect Wharton to be in Camp next week.  I also expect Gman to pick up an OL during the preseason. 

 

I love what I am hearing about the WRs being better than advertised.

 

 

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a singular focused offense is vulnerable, no matter what that focus is.  Balance allows you to attack the weaknesses in your opponent's defense.

 

Singular focus = wins against a certain opponent, but losses against others.

 

Balance = ability to win against any opponent.

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Atlanta literally made it to the NFCC game on 82 yards rushing a game. Baltimore's running game was average at best. Green Bay and New England are not rushing teams and they found some success in the playoffs.

It is no longer a requirement.

The Patriots were 7th in the league in rushing. The two SB teams were 4 & 11...I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to run effectively. If not we need to cut all of our good running backs.

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New England was beat by the Ravens, who were 11th in rushing (above average) and Green Bay and Atlanta were beaten by the 9ers who were 4th in rushing.
I realize that it's not a requirement to make the playoffs, and I'm not advocating foxball, but I don't have a problem with more conservative that what we've seen the last two years.


The ravens passed it over 57% of the time (or tried to since I'm also counting sack plays) and the Niners weren't running any kind of a conservative pound it up the middle offense with Kaepernick running and throwing all over the place so I'm not sure what point you are trying to prove bringing those teams up but it sure as hell doesn't prove that conservative, 3-yards and a cloud of dust offenses still work here.

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The Patriots were 7th in the league in rushing. The two SB teams were 4 & 11...I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to run effectively. If not we need to cut all of our good running backs.


Running effectively is different than running a lot more because you think it sets up everything else. The truth is that the pats had a ridiculous amount of snaps in general last year and they still passed a lot more than they ran, and for a lot more yards. It's inconsequential anyway for them because they were a very mediocre team the year before and made it to the Superbowl, losing to the worst rushing team in the league.

I'm pretty sure nobody's going to put eight in the box because your getting gashed up the middle by the patriots as long as brady's the qb.

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It always amazes me when fans think that just because a team is successful throwing the ball they don't want to run the ball. A one dimensional team is easier to defend. Almost everyone knows that. Teams want to run, and even though they are not successful, they still try to run the ball.

Even in today's NFL teams want to be as close to balanced as possible. Defenses are getting better, you need balance to keep those D's honest. As those D's go with 5DBs and smaller quicker LBs to defend the pass, you have to run to take advantage of those smaller Ds. The teams that can run and pass with equal success are going to be hard to stop.

But fans see the pass and are enthralled. So they believe that the pass is the way to go. Simplistic logic, and wrong logic.
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It always amazes me when fans think that just because a team is successful throwing the ball they don't want to run the ball. A one dimensional team is easier to defend. Almost everyone knows that. Teams want to run, and even though they are not successful, they still try to run the ball.

Even in today's NFL teams want to be as close to balanced as possible. Defenses are getting better, you need balance to keep those D's honest. As those D's go with 5DBs and smaller quicker LBs to defend the pass, you have to run to take advantage of those smaller Ds. The teams that can run and pass with equal success are going to be hard to stop.

But fans see the pass and are enthralled. So they believe that the pass is the way to go. Simplistic logic, and wrong logic.


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I do not see why everyone thinks that Shula is going to be so conservative.  He has to know Cam has a lot more talent than Trent Dilfer, and I do not see why he will not try to take advantage of it. He has to know he only has one year to make or break himself.

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