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all the spelling errors aside, pretty much none of what you said is true. You can get public assistance without a state ID. You can use any official letter sent to your address as proof of ID and residency, let alone that SS cards and Birth Certs all qualify.

Also, outside of a few specific cases, government "checks" don't come in check form. The funds are loaded onto benefit cards that work like debit/credit cards.

You can't function in this society without a valid ID. I'm sorry, if you lack the motivation to aquire a state ID, how can you be trusted to help decide who our leaders will be? All this is pointless anyway, considering state IDs will be free to low income folks. For future reference, spelling error= adress vs address. Typo= picture vs oicture. Thanks.

What floppin said.

I have read the 300k number in several places. I guess it could just be made up by leftys but I doubt it.

It's the same argument and the same numbers they used in Georgia a few years ago. Recycled failed arguments, that's what the left is best atm

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You can't function in this society without a valid ID. I'm sorry, if you lack the motivation to aquire a state ID, how can you be trusted to help decide who our leaders will be? All this is pointless anyway, considering state IDs will be free to low income folks. For future reference, spelling error= adress vs address. Typo= picture vs oicture. Thanks.

It's the same argument and the same numbers they used in Georgia a few years ago. Recycled failed arguments, that's what the left is best atm

 

So it's just made up lies. Gotcha. How many people in NC do you think operate without an ID?

 

I've met people with no ID when I got my first job selling shitty life insurance in Spencer NC. Your typical 85 year old black lady never drove, probably never had a valid birth certificate and dealt all in cash. And besides being dirt poor, did just fine. And voted religiously.

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So it's just made up lies. Gotcha. How many people in NC do you think operate without an ID?

I've met people with no ID when I got my first job selling shitty life insurance in Spencer NC. Your typical 85 year old black lady never drove, probably never had a valid birth certificate and dealt all in cash. And besides being dirt poor, did just fine. And voted religiously.

That's a very specific "typical" demographic you pointed out. I would imagine there aren't enough 85 year old black ladies who never drove, to exceed the total population of Greensboro North Carolina.

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That's a very specific "typical" demographic you pointed out. I would imagine there aren't enough 85 year old black ladies who never drove, to exceed the total population of Greensboro North Carolina.

 

Nor did I suggest this was the only demographic that represent citizens without government ID.

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Nor did I suggest this was the only demographic that represent citizens without government ID.

I would highly doubt the number of folks without a valid ID would exceed the population of Traphill, North Carolina. State IDs aren't the only IDs accepted at the poles.

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I would highly doubt the number of folks without a valid ID would exceed the population of Traphill, North Carolina. State IDs aren't the only IDs accepted at the poles.

 

Polls. I doubt your doubt is based on anything concrete besides preconceived notions..

 

It's a fair debate whether voter ID laws are discriminatory and I suggest they are not if presented fairly. But maybe they are.

 

But the debate about whether there are a material number of people who don't have IDs in the state is fruitless. If you can't move past that then any further debate is silly.

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Here's the thing, the fact that a majority of North Carolinians agree with voter id makes all this a mute point. Whether it is discriminatory or not seems to be only based on folks own paranoia. Does it disproportionatly affect blacks, probably. Does that it make it a racist law? absolutely not. Its all in how you perceive the world around you.

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Moot point...

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Unfortunately the answer to many of these is no. Or they manage to do it without ID. Drive without a license etc.

Articles state that round 300,000 people have no form of ID in NC. If the law is done right they don't have to be discriminated against. At the same time the only group of people that this law could hurt is these 300,000 who are also mostly poor and black.

This is an easy law for republicans to vote for since it will not not affect their constituencies. It is a little funny that McCory states that a photo ID is normal for getting on an airplane or renting sports equipment. I seriously doubt a black kid living in lumberton below the poverty line is planning his next trip to San Francisco or thinking about renting a wakeboard.

They will be given a FREE ID and have three years to go get it. So, they are not being hurt or disenfranchised.

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