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#91 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:20 PM

what you call an attempt, is a duct tape fix that tried to hide a hole but did not. plus there are 5 WRs on the current roster who will be FA after this season which puts you in the same boat as going all in at WR next year.(kinda like DT)

using 2nd and 3rd round draft picks on wr's aren't necessarily duct tape fixes, maybe guys like dj hacket or keyshawn or older Moose may be, but not every team uses their first round picks on wr's.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:23 PM

we could say the same thing about CB as well



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:30 PM

okay but you're using trades from one year to show picks we could have had the next year, they were obviously thinking more about the current year rather than the following.

And Thinking about the current year they were still hard pressing to find WR help see 2010 drafting 3 WRs which included trading away the next years 2nd to pick up Edwards who No One had projected until after the 4th!  That 2nd could have been used the next year picking up someone like Rudolph.

DE was an issue but no bigger than WR where back to 2010 they drafted 3 wr and only Hardy at DL late Despite the same DL from the year before MINUS Peppers.  Again could have had a stud 1st round WR instead of trading up And reaching for a DL when it was obvious WR help was just as big if not bigger issue.

 

Think how nasty we could be with DT lined up with smith and Rudolph paired with Olsen.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:37 PM

not saying the Panthers were right, but they obviously viewed Smith as a #1, who has proven he can carry the load with a competent running game.  getting Moose back in 08' was certainly addressing the situation, once we lost Jake in 09 the season was basically over.  Moose is gone in 10 so we draft THREE wr's.  Were they anyone's first choice, no?  I mean going back and saying we should have drafted so-and-so instead of whoever doesnt make anyone sound smarter.  Would we be in any better shape had we drafted Golden Tate like everyone wanted instead of Clausen?  I doubt that would have satisfied anyone here at this point.  I, along with everyone else was disappointed we didnt chase a FA this year at the position, but unfortunately we dont have cap space for anyone significant.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:52 PM

not saying the Panthers were right, but they obviously viewed Smith as a #1, who has proven he can carry the load with a competent running game.  getting Moose back in 08' was certainly addressing the situation, once we lost Jake in 09 the season was basically over.  Moose is gone in 10 so we draft THREE wr's.  Were they anyone's first choice, no?  I mean going back and saying we should have drafted so-and-so instead of whoever doesnt make anyone sound smarter. 

True but they did show that WR was just as big an issue.  The drafting so-and-so instead would be a pretty moot argument had we not drafted the guys the way we did.  Again we did trade away a 2nd round pick to draft a kid who not one person out there including app states coach or even Edwards thought/had going until 4th at the earliest.  So yes Easy to say pick so-and-so considering we could have got him with our later pick And still had that 2nd the following year to pick up a Rudolph.  2010 we still had peppers and we traded away a First round pick to Reach in the 2nd to snag Brown who again everyone had us reaching here.  That First round who even if we didnt pick a WR could had a First round caliber DL to Replace peppers instead of a late 2nd-3rd DL to replace a pro-bowl DL.

 

Bottom Line- Hurney left us with a Mess.  



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:55 PM

we drafted Brown in 09' when it was inevitable Peppers wasn't coming back who was a first round prospect at the time, but as an OLB.  Pep was a Bear in 10', the mess was created in 10/11'



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:02 PM

we drafted Brown in 09' when it was inevitable Peppers wasn't coming back who was a first round prospect at the time, but as an OLB.  Pep was a Bear in 10', the mess was created in 10/11'

 

Again back to Hurney and Reaching in the draft.  We go out and get a 3-4 OLB who was projected late 1st early 2nd before his stock started to fall, to replace a pro bowl DE, when we could have had a 1st round calibre DE in the 2010 draft to replace Pep for the 2010-2011 season once Pep left.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:04 PM

Again back to Hurney and Reaching in the draft.  We go out and get a 3-4 OLB who was projected late 1st early 2nd before his stock started to fall, to replace a pro bowl DE, when we could have had a 1st round calibre DE in the 2010 draft to replace Pep for the 2010-2011 season once Pep left.

i'll give it to you, you're hindsight is 20/20!

 

Hurney has been gone, dead and obvious issue.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:06 PM

AE was the only reach everybody knew was bad at the time it happened.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:21 PM

If Gettis gets cut, yet Armanti makes the team, BOA should be burned to the ground.

 

I don't know what is more immature, your comments or your avatar.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:04 PM

I will reserve judgement to until after the third pre season game but I think that at this point it might be a little extreme to burn anything down, unless Gettis really tears it up the rest of the pre season. 



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:20 PM

please do. Get started.

 

Receivers picked between pick #17 (what would have been Carolina's 1st round pick had they not traded up for Everette Brown in 2009) and pick #48 (where Carolina picked Jimmy Clausen).

 

#22 - Demaryius Thomas (94 receptions, 1424 yards, 10 TDs last year)

#24 - Dez Bryant (82 receptions, 1382 yards, 12 TDs last year)

#42 - Rob Gronkowski (55 receptions, 790 yards, 11 TDs last year, in 11 games)

 

omitted #39 Arrelious Benn for irrelevance.  And I know Gronkowski is a TE, but I felt the need to throw him in there.

 

Both Thomas and Bryant's stats were better than Steve Smith's last year (73 receptions, 1174 yards, 4 TDs) so you're already wrong.  Carolina has had a chance to draft receivers better than Steve Smith.  Poor draft decision making has prevented that from happening.

 

Receivers picked between #33 (what would have been Carolina's 2nd round pick had they not traded up for Armanti Edwards) and #65, where Carolina selected Terrell McClain.

 

#58 - Torrey Smith (49 receptions, 855 yards, 8 TDs last year)

#59 - Greg Little (53 receptions, 647 yards, 4 TDs)

#64 - Randall Cobb (80 receptions, 954 yards, 8 TDs)

 

omitted #44 Titus Young for irrelevance.

 

If Steve Smith went down Carolina would easily have the worst WR corps in the league.  Don't say they haven't had the chance to do better, because they have.  Hindsight is 20/20 but when your top receiver is 34 and for over a decade they haven't been able to groom someone behind him, something is seriously wrong.  Maybe Gettleman can find someone.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:55 PM

The F***** Huddle...only place a thread about a player standing can turn to s****.

On topic Gettis is looking good, and Ginn with Cam at QB also looked a lot better.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:01 PM

I'm more worried about our OL than the receiving corps.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:53 PM

That's a bit ridiculous. Goodson got more than one season to prove himself, or not prove himself as it ended up being of course. With all the time Armanti and even Gettis have gotten, Joe deserves one more season.

I will tell you something that is ridiculous.  A theory that suggests Adams should be given as much time as other players because that would be fair to him.   Do you really think it works that way?

 

Here are facts:

 

Smitty, Lafell, Edwards, Gettis, Ginn, Hixon/Adams/Pilares.    Should we keep Adams because he deserves one more season based on some code of fairness you believe is in play?   If Adams cannot contribute to special teams or make the top 6 WR on the depth chart, the Panthers will deal him if they can or waive him if they cannot.  He needs to beat out Hixon, more than likely or life will be unfair for him. 




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