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Best Answer Promethean Forerunner, 17 August 2013 - 11:09 AM

CRA, just stop. You're overracting... like usual.

Any competent football fan knows that talent and coaching is only half the battle. The other half is chemistry and experience. Go to the full post


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#16 AceBoogie

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:22 AM

But everybody said we are going to win 12 games.


8-8 is very realistic. To get to 10-6 which doesn't automatically mean playoffs, we will have to beat a Super Bowl contender or two.

#17 Captain Morgan

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:26 AM

we'll be getting hogmollies for the O in the draft.  We need to win as much as we can this year,

groom our talented young stars, and keep improving in the offseason as well.

 

Our coaching has to improve...we've got to win a lot more of those games decided by a touchdown

or less.

 

Getty can't fix everything in a year.  It sure looks like he's made major improvements already.

 

And even though we have to face Brees and Matt 4 times a year, I'd still rather improve the OL

before focusing on the secondary.

 

Remember we have a new OC.....give it some time.



#18 The Golden Child

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:28 AM

This is what happens when you have no money to sign FA's and only have 5 draft picks.

You simply cannot plug ever hole on the roster.

Gettleman has done the best you can possibly do under the circumstances.



#19 Pejorative Miscreant

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:29 AM

The sky is blue


I think you mean the sky WAS blue. It apparently fell on Thursday night.

We are doomed.

#20 Montsta

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:33 AM

Can you rollover cap space that is leftover from one year to the next? If so, it's possible that Gettleman is looking at the number of zeros that will be attached to the contracts of Cam, Kraken, etc. and knows he'll need every dollar, so they are considering our O-line serviceable for the time being. Plus, if LaFell or Gettis have great years they will need to be paid too. I know they don't have the resumes to command a ton, but certainly if they both have solid years there will be interest in them and their prices will go up. Next year is Smitty's last under contract, and he'll probably go the year-to-year or maybe two year contract route. If he is still having 1,000 yard seasons, he'll get paid at least a little somethin. We have quite a bit of guys coming up under contract, so Gettleman may be looking longer term. Plus, I'm sure he's talking with RR daily and Rivera must have at least some input into saying yes I think what we have at O-line right now can work. No one wants to win more than Rivera, because he's the first one gone if the hole thing gets blown up. So I'm sure he'd say Dave, what we have simply cannot pass for an O-line at all.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 10:46 AM

Basically if you look at everything except winning. Two undrafteds holding up the right side of the line. Center coming off of a injury D2 lg and an aging left tackle. Gettlemagic. But it's cool because we have two new DT, bandaid wrs, bandaid secondary, rookie rb with ball security issues, and another d2 guard that can't get on the field. I keep saying it Gettleman built this roster so he can give Ron a chance but at the same time completely rebuild it if it doesn't work.

It is easy to shoot holes in everything and complain.  It is much harder to fix the problem.  Gettleman has done a great job changing the cap almost 30 million dollars and still kept most of our talent.  You know that if he can find someone who could be an instant upgrade and fit it into the larger plan he would.  After all he is all about big bodies.  Maybe he knows that Kugbila is coming back soon maybe he has his eyes on some diamonds in the rough.  Maybe he thinks we are not as bad as you and others do.  But I do know he will do everything he can.  I just don't think it is as easy to do as others suggest.  There won't be plenty of guys who are an instant upgrade. 



#22 Promethean Forerunner

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:09 AM   Best Answer

CRA, just stop. You're overracting... like usual.

Any competent football fan knows that talent and coaching is only half the battle. The other half is chemistry and experience.

#23 DawgzLife

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:19 AM

This is not a Debbie Downer post, but...

 

I think OL play is 1 reason we will not be much above .500 this season; not opening up lanes, pressure getting into the backfield, etc.  If Cam's play remains as it has been so far in preseason, we won't even make it there.

 

I still don't think Rivera has what it takes to be a HC.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:25 AM

Alright, we've had an immense amount of holes on this team since 2010 (except at RB).  Many of them have been systematically addressed through the draft.  We are currently set up to have an extremely young, physical and fast defense loaded with talent on the front end.

 

There might have not been a realistic way to address Oline this year.  Many of the top prospect linemen went extremely high in the draft (2 guards in the top 15, along with 3-4 tackles) and the big name FAs had heavy price tags (Levitre and Long were both overpayed).  If we are lucky, we'll pick up a few scraps after preseason to fill in as depth, but if we don't at least we can pretty much spend the next entire offseason building this line.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

Again where are these upgrades at final cuts. Guys like Kirwin and Ryan say they aren't going to be instant starters which is what we need to be better than what we have.


Name a year there wasnt a G or T made a available then due to cuts that wasnt in a different tier than some of what we are throwing out there....

Teams have backups that are better than our starters.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:46 PM

"Garry Williams just needs game experience" lmfao

 

He's had plenty of experience and he has always sucked. This year is no different.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:04 PM

Cam skews are rushing numbers...which is why we were 9th. He was our leading rusher. He makes it look on paper much better

I am talking about the traditional rush attack and what the RBs can do.

 

 

 

Well Cam's part of the team and he will get his rushing number no matter what  and it should be counted towards it since he is part of the Carolina rushing attack.

 

If you really think about the first half of the season was hindered by RO which greatly reduced the  RB rushing numbers. Even then  Deangelo still manged to muster 700 + yd mostly in 2nd half of the season.  

 

This year we are going to run more traditional run plays from  Week 1 and will help establish the run game as part of the team identity. 

 

Stewart 1,000 yds + 

 

Williams 800 yds+

 

 

Signed Sanjay Rajput  :cool:



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:24 PM

Well Cam's part of the team and he will get his rushing number no matter what and it should be counted towards it since he is part of the Carolina rushing attack.

If you really think about the first half of the season was hindered by RO which greatly reduced the RB rushing numbers. Even then Deangelo still manged to muster 700 + yd mostly in 2nd half of the season.

This year we are going to run more traditional run plays from Week 1 and will help establish the run game as part of the team identity.

Stewart 1,000 yds +

Williams 800 yds+


Signed Sanjay Rajput :cool:

The point is giving Cam help....Cam had to help our RBs.

Last game of the season greatly distorted what the RBs did the last half of the season. RBs were just as inconstant late as early. Yet then last game of the season causes people to broad brush the end of the season as being "fixed"

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:36 PM

The point is giving Cam help....Cam had to help our RBs.

Last game of the season greatly distorted what the RBs did the last half of the season. RBs were just as inconstant late as early. Yet then last game of the season causes people to broad brush the end of the season as being "fixed"

 

 

 

Just look at the preseason game  this year we where able to march down the field several times with traditional run game. We still don't have Tolbert & Stewart  to run inside the tackle and short yard situation. Also Cam barley scrambled yet we still got to the redzone. 

 

I'm betting that by end of the season our O-line is going to be one of the Keys to a winning season and playoff birth.

 

We will find out by week 3 how good our O-line is  going to be this season. 



#30 Cary Kollins

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

The RBs were bad last year because Chud didn't give them a chance with his play calling.


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