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Best Answer Promethean Forerunner, 17 August 2013 - 11:09 AM

CRA, just stop. You're overracting... like usual.

Any competent football fan knows that talent and coaching is only half the battle. The other half is chemistry and experience. Go to the full post


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#31 DeAngelo's #1 Fan(CRA)

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:26 PM

Just look at the preseason game this year we where able to march down the field several times with traditional run game. We still don't have Tolbert & Stewart to run inside the tackle and short yard situation. Also Cam barley scrambled yet we still got to the redzone.

I'm betting that by end of the season our O-line is going to be one of the Keys to a winning season and playoff birth.

We will find out by week 3 how good our O-line is going to be this season.


Williams has averaged 2 yards a carry....first string run game hasn't marched down anything.

Cam running gives as an added cog to our run game..... Issue is he remains the best threat and makes our overall attack look better than it is. Him running is not an example of the run helping our offense work....it is him taking over.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

All this blaming Chud you better hope your right because preseason or not his offense right now looks better than ours has.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:32 PM

CRA, just stop. You're overracting... like usual.

Any competent football fan knows that talent and coaching is only half the battle. The other half is chemistry and experience.

lol...OL was a bad last year. We didn't do anything to it. Calling it still bad and still an issue....is far from overreacting.

And no, adding the 4th rounder isn't doing anything to improve it for 2013.

NFL is largely a talent driven league. Then you add in the coaching.

Chemistry and experience? Look at last year....how much chemistry and experience did Russell, Kap or RGIII have....

They all had better OLs....there RBs could run and thanks to the OL and got protection.

OL is huge. Cam make your skills positions great or below average. OL last year made our RBs probably slightly below average overall on the year

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:43 PM

After looking at the game again, I think we have something with our 2 TE set in the run game.

 

Other than a couple of miss assignments from our guards, while pulling, we're getting good yardage in this set, unlike last year when our starting O Line would just get overpowered. 

 

I haven't seen our 1st team O Line get out right overpowered in preseason as of yet, just missed assignments, which can be fixed. This is a good thing.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 02:58 PM

Gotta believe that with the moves DG made in NY that he isn't going to vastly improve our weak spots... give him some time, he will push the right buttons.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:00 PM

Gotta believe that with the moves DG made in NY that he isn't going to vastly improve our weak spots... give him some time, he will push the right buttons.


DG didn't make any moves in NY. He didn't coach up the on scrub talent either in NY

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:47 PM

Williams has averaged 2 yards a carry....first string run game hasn't marched down anything.

Cam running gives as an added cog to our run game..... Issue is he remains the best threat and makes our overall attack look better than it is. Him running is not an example of the run helping our offense work....it is him taking over.

 

 

Cam's running talent is actually better and gains more yards when he scrambles around during pass plays ......Our running game is going to get better this year due to scheme, return of injured played. I think we have necessary players to help  Cam in the offense we just have to get them healthy and play in the right scheme. The running game is going to help Cam out just like Alfred Morris did to RGIII

 

RB - Stewart & Williams  both had 1000yds+ season and one of them is going to repeat it this year 

 

FB- Tolbert probably second best option behind Cam in short yardage situation

 

TE- Olsen 843 yds .... can be and probably will have over 1000 yds + 

 

WR- Smitty all day every day 1000yds + season

 

WR- Lafell - 677yds ........ 

 

 

Even with this "no weapon offense"  we still where with in aTD reach to win the games in about 8 games last year

 

With the front 7 we will get the ball back more often & have plenty of opportunities

 

 to score.

 

Cup is always half full! 



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

You have to be a super homer to think a 4th round D2 injured guard is going to improve our line.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:01 PM

You have to be a super homer to think a 4th round D2 injured guard is going to improve our line.

 

 

Yea i think so and i bet he will.  Talk to me in week 4 



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:14 PM

Yea i think so and i bet he will. Talk to me in week 4


So a guy that didn't even play against top college talent and hasn't even really practiced yet is going to come in and fix the oline?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:26 PM

Even at the tail end of the Fox-era, our running game has been average and it's been for quite some time now.  I think spirits still ride high on 2008 but honestly, we've had nothing that special since.  

 

At the end of the day, it's simple: We need a better offensive line

 

Our whole right side is just downright bad.

 



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:29 PM

Cam's running talent is actually better and gains more yards when he scrambles around during pass plays ......Our running game is going to get better this year due to scheme, return of injured played. I think we have necessary players to help Cam in the offense we just have to get them healthy and play in the right scheme. The running game is going to help Cam out just like Alfred Morris did to RGIII

RB - Stewart & Williams both had 1000yds+ season and one of them is going to repeat it this year

FB- Tolbert probably second best option behind Cam in short yardage situation

TE- Olsen 843 yds .... can be and probably will have over 1000 yds +

WR- Smitty all day every day 1000yds + season

WR- Lafell - 677yds ........


Even with this "no weapon offense" we still where with in aTD reach to win the games in about 8 games last year

With the front 7 we will get the ball back more often & have plenty of opportunities

to score.

Cup is always half full!

We ran a traditional scheme much of last year.....didn't help the RBs. They were inconsistent and average bc the OL.

So going traditional doesn't solve it.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:44 PM

We ran a traditional scheme much of last year.....didn't help the RBs. They were inconsistent and average bc the OL.

So going traditional doesn't solve it.


If the OL can't block it doesn't matter what scheme you use.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 04:56 PM

Double Trouble in 2012

First half of the season (7 games - excluded the Saints)

3.1 ypc, 2 TDs

2nd half of the season (7 games - excluded the 2nd Saints game)

3.2 ypc, 1 TD

Everyone keeps saying getting away from the read and going traditional allowed them to thrive last year on the ground and that will makeup for our bad OL......but going traditional didn't do much if anything.

Read option was NOT our problem. Bad OL play was....RBs didn't do better when we got away from it. They just played the Saints....and they ran good against them early in the year as well

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:30 PM

We ran a traditional scheme much of last year.....didn't help the RBs. They were inconsistent and average bc the OL.

So going traditional doesn't solve it.

 

I don't think so first part of the season was more of shotgun & pistol where Cam read the DE and decided to whether to give the ball to the RB or keep it.  

 

Even with a make shift O-line we still had a top 12 Offense .........so a return of a Pro-bowl center and experience gained by our younger player improves the O-line. In addition changes we made at RG has improved O-line and will be better this year.

 

I would wait until couple of games in regular season before discrediting the O-line.




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