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#16 Dick the Butcher

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:16 AM

So what you're saying is that due to his preseason passing accuracy in meaningless games, cam's spot shouldn't be guaranteed? Really? Are you serious?

 

simple reading comprehension would reveal that your interpretation wasn't the point of my post.  stop intentionally trying to misread it.  plain and simple:  cam hasn't been accurate, and it is cause for concern.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:16 AM

First I have not narrowed this down to Cam, it seems like every box score i read for the nfl has a starter or backup with 60-70% accuracy.

Brady was damn near perfect, so was Vick, and EJ Manuel was 10-12. This seems to indicate that a system has been implemented that works for the player.

Alex Smith had the highest qb rating of his career under Harbaugh, but he sucked under other coaches.

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

Shrug I hear ya buuuuuuut its preseason.

 

No look I think the problem is this, Cam has got new targets and I think he is being urged to look for them more than Smitty. I think you can do things like that in preseason, feel things out, but when it comes to week1 theres not going to be any of that. He's going to go straight to who he trusts instinctively. He has to build those instincts somewhere. There's gonna be timing mishaps and errors while he's learning to play with other guys. . . and he's not Drew Brees, he's Cam Newton.

I feel what your saying but the person he trust the most is who he is overthrowing the most. He our QB and he not going anywhere but it does make your head scratch he doesn't miss by a little but by a lot when he misses see below). And no I am not a hater. I love this team and my QB

 

 

 

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:20 AM

simple reading comprehension would reveal that your interpretation wasn't the point of my post.  stop intentionally trying to misread it.  plain and simple:  cam hasn't been accurate, and it is cause for concern.

 

 

How is it a cause for concern? Cam has always played bad in the preseason. It's not as if he doesn't have a history for it. His regular season accuracy ratings are 60.0 and 57.7 for his first two seasons. How the fug do you look at his regular season stats and say that what he is doing in the preseason is a cause for concern. Jesus people on this forum are dumb as poo.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:23 AM

I feel what your saying but the person he trust the most is who he is overthrowing the most. He our QB and he not going anywhere but it does make your head scratch he doesn't miss by a little but by a lot when he misses see below). And no I am not a hater. I love this team and my QB

 

 

I remember that, ughh that was ugly. Well, hows Cam looked in practice? I havnt heard of him looking poorly.
 



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:27 AM

Stop focusing on Cam they all suck so far! Anderson & Clausen included!

The question is why?

Is it the system?

Is it the OC ?

Is it they are going by a script?

Is it other teams are using easy offenses with lots of short throws?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:29 AM

First I have not narrowed this down to Cam, it seems like every box score i read for the nfl has a starter or backup with 60-70% accuracy.

Brady was damn near perfect, so was Vick, and EJ Manuel was 10-12. This seems to indicate that a system has been implemented that works for the player.

Alex Smith had the highest qb rating of his career under Harbaugh, but he sucked under other coaches.

 

 

Matt Ryan was 8-15 which is 53.33 with 1 touchdown cam was 8-17 with no touch down and clearly throughout the game cam was forcing throws instead of running for gaining yards.(Probably by design to not hurt himself in meaningless games) Obviously it will change in the preseason, but the point of this post is that numbers right now are very unimportant. If people want to complain about cam's accuracy do it when the games actually matter. 

 

I thought a concept like this would be simple.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:29 AM

I remember that, ughh that was ugly. Well, hows Cam looked in practice? I havnt heard of him looking poorly.
 

I was there the 1st Sunday when they went in full pads and he was on fire that day. We will be fine but what concerns that I and other have is we have seen some drives come to a halt on throws just like that especially on 3rd down.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:34 AM

I was there the 1st Sunday when they went in full pads and he was on fire that day. We will be fine but what concerns that I and other have is we have seen some drives come to a halt on throws just like that especially on 3rd down.

 

Different OC, could be "rehearsing" differently. Maybe Cam is just more of a timing guy and needs more familiarity with the plays theyre running. Maybe Chud was a little more strict in his ways and Shula is a little looseh gooseh.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:36 AM

Just for fun, a little walk down memory lane.

 

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:38 AM

I never did like Chud's offense because it seemed high risk high reward. When Chud's left I figured Cam's accuracy would go up, instead Weeden's shot thru the roof, he is 18-21 for 229 yards and 3 td's this preseason. Campbell was 14-19 for 143 yards in the last 2 games. I'm not sure we have a qb with over 50% accuracy during this preseason.

Can anybody explain the difference?

I know these are preseason numbers but I'm seeing lots of qb's finishing games with 1 or 2 incompletions. Hell Dennis Dixon was 3/3 in our game and 7/13 in the patriots game.

 

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:48 AM

Norv, effect on Weedan, not Chud

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:52 AM

Norv, effect on Weedan, not Chud


Could you explain further?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:53 AM

Norv, effect on Weedan, not Chud

I agree.



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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:59 AM

Could you explain further?

 

Norv is the offensive coordinator not chud. That is your reason.




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