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What to do with Ben Gordon?


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What would you do?

  1. Let his contract expire at end of the season (improve cap situation next year) (13 votes [35.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.14%

  2. Trade him ASAP for assets/player/draft picks (his stock won't improve) (6 votes [16.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.22%

  3. wait til Trade Deadline (improve his stock) and move for assets/player/draft picks (14 votes [37.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.84%

  4. tell him to dribble the ball while Clifford/Ewing are talking (fun ensues) (1 votes [2.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

  5. Pie (3 votes [8.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.11%

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#1 bLACKpANTHER

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:07 AM

What would you do with Gordon?



#2 CarolinaNCSU

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:24 AM

I'm guessing he ends up being part of a multiple team trade around the deadline to move a star/make the cap work for some team. Nets us a pick in the process. 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:26 AM

if someone comes along now with the right offer, I'd take it.  But he won't

be part of our team this year unless we suddenly start winning.

 

If we do, he'll get some time because he can score.  If not, he'll sit while

younger guys develop until the deadline, when we'll showcase him to get

the best value.

 

at least that's how it should work



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:57 AM

Unless there is an offer we can't refuse, let him play out his contract.

 

Don't want to trade him for a bunch of scrubs whose contracts happen to equal 13 million (or whatever it is) and be on the hook for those contracts past this season.

 

Unless you can trade him for a high caliber player at a position of need, that is young, don't mess with that contract.  wait until next offseason and use that money wisely.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 12:10 PM

His expiring contract is valuable to us.  If we don't trade him, we will be able to attempt to get another player similar to the caliber of Al Jefferson's contract in next year's free agency.  That is more valuable than any of the assets we could get back for him right now in a trade.  Ben Gordon's value is his contract and no longer his skillset although I feel he can still contribute to an extent.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:15 PM

His expiring contract can net us a batter player in free agency then it could in a trade.

Let him play out his contract.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

not sure some of you guys understand the value of an expiring contract.  If a cash strapped team is going to lose a player to FA because they can't afford to resign him, they'll take Gordan and give us what we want...most likely draft picks.

 

It has to be the right deal, but I'd hate to see Gordan gone for nothing.  Because he is gone anyway.  He'll never play for us again.  

 

But if we don't get the right deal, no biggie...we'll still enjoy the cap space.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 02:46 PM

His expiring contract can net us a batter player in free agency then it could in a trade.

Let him play out his contract.

 

List of 2014 FAs (P) player option (ETO) team option:
Kobe Bryant

Danny Granger

Rudy Gay (P)

Carmelo Anthony (ETO)

Dirk Nowitski

Luol Deng

Andrew Bogut

Darrin Collison (P)

Marcin Gortat

Vince Carter

Kyle Lowry

Paul Pierce

Kris Humphries

Rodney Stuckey

Thabo Sefolosha

Mario Chalmers

Caron Butler

Marvin Williams

Emeka Okafor

Channing Frye (P)

 

*red indicates potential Hornets targets -- IMHO



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

Expire his contract. .the whole reason we got him

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:06 PM

not sure some of you guys understand the value of an expiring contract. If a cash strapped team is going to lose a player to FA because they can't afford to resign him, they'll take Gordan and give us what we want...most likely draft picks.

It has to be the right deal, but I'd hate to see Gordan gone for nothing. Because he is gone anyway. He'll never play for us again.

But if we don't get the right deal, no biggie...we'll still enjoy the cap space.

Someone who knows this stuff better than me correct me if I am wrong.

There is a lot of value in his contract. The problem is if we trade him, unless the other team is way under the cap, we will have to receive a near equal amount of contracts back.

If that team is strapped for cap space the following season that means we would have to get back multi year contract or contracts that equal Gordon's.

In other words we can't just trade him.for picks, we will have to take on a longer term contract or contracts.

Unless another team is offering a high quality player for a similar price it doesn't make sense to trade him. We wouldn't lose him for nothing, we would lies him to keep cap space for free agency.

NBA rules are different than other sports.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:10 AM

List of 2014 FAs (P) player option (ETO) team option:
Kobe Bryant

Danny Granger

Rudy Gay (P)

Carmelo Anthony (ETO)

Dirk Nowitski

Luol Deng

Andrew Bogut

Darrin Collison (P)

Marcin Gortat

Vince Carter

Kyle Lowry

Paul Pierce

Kris Humphries

Rodney Stuckey

Thabo Sefolosha

Mario Chalmers

Caron Butler

Marvin Williams

Emeka Okafor

Channing Frye (P)

 

*red indicates potential Hornets targets -- IMHO

 

Kobe and Melo potential targets? In what world? I mean, seriously? 

 

Granger/Gay maybe would be the caliber of guy we could bring in, but what to do with MKG? Not to mention having to overpay both to get them here. I'm not willing to curb MKG's progression to start one of those 2. 

Deng, injuries. MKG factor.

 

Gortat, again...Zeller progression/already overpaying Jefferson.

 

Humphries, just no to crazy Kardashian ex. 

Thabo, meh. What does he even bring? 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:31 AM

Why rush? Let him play out his contract. Use that money in FA next year. Unless, you can trade him for future pick(s).

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 01:17 PM

I really believe waiting untill trade deadline and move for assets and or picks would be the smart option, but I just couldn't pass up voting for having him dribble will Clifford/Ewing are talking.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:22 PM

not sure some of you guys understand the value of an expiring contract.  If a cash strapped team is going to lose a player to FA because they can't afford to resign him, they'll take Gordan and give us what we want...most likely draft picks.

 

It has to be the right deal, but I'd hate to see Gordan gone for nothing.  Because he is gone anyway.  He'll never play for us again.  

 

But if we don't get the right deal, no biggie...we'll still enjoy the cap space.

This is completely wrong.  Not even close to right.

 

If a cash strapped team is going to lose a player in free agency, then that player is himself on an expiring contract.  For instance, if the Bulls couldn't afford to re-sign Luol Deng after this year then his contract will expire after the season.  Why on earth would they trade him for Ben Gordon and give us assets...both contracts are expiring?  They would be giving us free assets... and a better player.  I'll just let logic prevail on this one.

 

Expiring contracts are valuable, as teeray mentioned, when a team wants to get rid of a bad contract with multi-years left on it.  Instead of paying a guy $13mil a year for the next 2 to 3 years = $39mil.  They trade the player for an expiring deal and only have to pay for the one expiring year and then open up team cap space in the off-season to allow them to be flexible in free agency.

 

Another different example is if a playoff team feels that they are in need of a shooter or off the bench scorer and truely believe that it will improve their chances of advancing in the playoffs.  They would then trade future picks, young potential players that are not yet producing, or cash... for Ben Gordon and hope that he can impact them in their playoff run.

 

As I said before, Ben Gordon's contract right now is more valuable to the Bobcats then it is to anyone else.  That could easily change during the  season once teams see where their holes are or injuries start to happen... 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

there are multiple options.

 

A team that needs cash to keep an important player could trade an asset with multiple years on their contract to get rid of that cost for Gordon.

 

It probably won't happen, but it could.  Say a guy has 3 years at 5 mill per year...if we wanted him, it's a win win situation for a trade.

 

The draft pick scenario is less likely but certainly possible.

 

How about we see what we can get before sentencing ourselves to letting him go for nothing?




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