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#31 IamSoClutch

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:51 AM

Does this really surprise anyone? I love Stewart but this is getting like one of those bad marriages you can't get out of.


im ready for the divorce

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:44 AM

This just shows how spoiled Panther fans are at the running back position. Haynesworth was a bad marriage. Stewart? Not even close. Give him a decent o-line and he'll have a 5.0+ ypc season. He's a threat in the passing game too (413 receiving yards in 2011). Sorry, but this fanbase can truly be ungrateful once monetary issues arise. I mean, some of these fans were blasting Beason and downplaying his accomplishments because of the contract.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:59 AM

This just shows how spoiled Panther fans are at the running back position. Haynesworth was a bad marriage. Stewart? Not even close. Give him a decent o-line and he'll have a 5.0+ ypc season. He's a threat in the passing game too (413 receiving yards in 2011). Sorry, but this fanbase can truly be ungrateful once monetary issues arise. I mean, some of these fans were blasting Beason and downplaying his accomplishments because of the contract.


I really could give a single fug about what they've done in the past, the fuging past isn't going to win us games. What have they done since they got their contracts? Stewart hasn't even ran for over 1,000 yards, since, what? 2008?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:16 AM

I really could give a single fug about what they've done in the past, the fuging past isn't going to win us games. What have they done since they got their contracts? Stewart hasn't even ran for over 1,000 yards, since, what? 2008?


And your point being? D-Will has been our starter (receiving majority of the snaps) since he was drafted by us, and Stewart still amassed 700+ yards in 2010 and 2011. I don't know how you don't view that as impressive especially since Williams holds a percentage advantage over Stewart in the snap department (and Williams only out rushed Stewart by 100+ yards in 2011).

I couldn't give two craps about your "what have you done for me lately" attitude. This isn't a fantasy game.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:29 AM

And your point being? D-Will has been our starter (receiving majority of the snaps) since he was drafted by us, and Stewart still amassed 700+ yards in 2010 and 2011. I don't know how you don't view that as impressive especially since Williams holds a percentage advantage over Stewart in the snap department (and Williams only out rushed Stewart by 100+ yards in 2011).

I couldn't give two craps about your "what have you done for me lately" attitude. This isn't a fantasy game.


This is a "what have you done for me lately league", if Stewart doesn't produce this year he will be gone. Hurney ain't the conductor anymore.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:40 AM

This is a "what have you done for me lately league", if Stewart doesn't produce this year he will be gone. Hurney ain't the conductor anymore.


The same could be said about Williams but considering our o-line is struggling in the run blocking department (in the preseason thus far), it appears all of our RBs might be in for a long year again. D-Will, J-Stew and Tolbert weren't exactly pulling away from anybody last year.

Fix the line and Double Trouble will consume defenses.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:05 AM

Said it on these very boards years ago that Stewart has a degenerative condition in his ankles and it was only going to get worse with time. That comes from somebody very close to Stewart. We're starting to see the issues emerge. He could have been a Top 5 guy in the league if he had ever been healthy enough to practice and play at 100%.

 

With that said, there is nothing out there to suggest that the PUP is an option for him right now. We're not even to the first week of the season. This decision doesn't have to come for some time. We can allow him to recover at his own pace.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:28 AM

The same could be said about Williams but considering our o-line is struggling in the run blocking department (in the preseason thus far), it appears all of our RBs might be in for a long year again. D-Will, J-Stew and Tolbert weren't exactly pulling away from anybody last year.

Fix the line and Double Trouble will consume defenses.

Well, if you had read other posts by me, I have suggested both might be shown the door at the end of the season. Restructuring only can hide our cap problems so much, Tolbert's contract isn't eating at our cap like the idiotic guaranteed money like J-Stew and D-will have in their contracts.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:30 AM

Said it on these very boards years ago that Stewart has a degenerative condition in his ankles and it was only going to get worse with time. That comes from somebody very close to Stewart. We're starting to see the issues emerge. He could have been a Top 5 guy in the league if he had ever been healthy enough to practice and play at 100%.

 

With that said, there is nothing out there to suggest that the PUP is an option for him right now. We're not even to the first week of the season. This decision doesn't have to come for some time. We can allow him to recover at his own pace.

He's already on the pre-season PUP list so it's no that crazy to think he could go on the regular season list given he hasn't come close to practicing and as you say has such a condition and is recovering from two surgeries.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:59 AM

which philly debacle?

the preseason one where we lost by five points?




Should have put #sarcasm at the end of the post.

You and Charlottepanther take the Internet too serious.

#41 nctarheel0619

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:07 AM

My favorite Panthers growing up are slowly leaving. Sad stuff man.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:11 AM

Well, if you had read other posts by me, I have suggested both might be shown the door at the end of the season. Restructuring only can hide our cap problems so much, Tolbert's contract isn't eating at our cap like the idiotic guaranteed money like J-Stew and D-will have in their contracts.


This where I believe G-Man will let go of one of the two, sadly (even if they have great seasons respectively). GMs tend to stick with the younger and 'cheaper' back, especially if he fits the philosophy. Although he's battled injuries, I think that favors Stewart. We'll see, I guess.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:48 AM

He's already on the pre-season PUP list so it's no that crazy to think he could go on the regular season list given he hasn't come close to practicing and as you say has such a condition and is recovering from two surgeries.

 

coming into training camp it was announced that there was a strong possibility stewart would start the season on the PUP list.

 

none of this news is a surprise...to be honest, the article is only rehashing already available information. obviously people haven't been following the situation.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:48 AM

Should have put #sarcasm at the end of the post.

You and Charlottepanther take the Internet too serious.

 

 

haha my bad. you can never tell around here, especially after the mass suicides we people were threatening after that game



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:08 AM

This just shows how spoiled Panther fans are at the running back position. Haynesworth was a bad marriage. Stewart? Not even close. Give him a decent o-line and he'll have a 5.0+ ypc season. He's a threat in the passing game too (413 receiving yards in 2011). Sorry, but this fanbase can truly be ungrateful once monetary issues arise. I mean, some of these fans were blasting Beason and downplaying his accomplishments because of the contract.

contracts matter....monetary issues are legit reasons for keeping or moving on.  you seem to want to downplay that.




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