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#11 BBQ&Beer

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:44 PM

In my opinion this is a definitive yes. We are a nation that is out of control, playing our part on a global stage that is even more out of control. We are systematically destroying the planet, looting its resources at rates that are absolutely unsustainable with zero regard for its consequences. Today's western/capitalist mindset produces division-based perspectives and a "me vs. you" state of mind built on the acquisition of trivialities such as material possessions and status identifications. Because of this, corruption is rampant in order to ensure an individual's getting ahead of the others in this race of rats. The system has done a better job at creating worker slaves than it has at liberating the collective creativity and ingenuity that make up the human spirit and endeavor. We live in a world where killing and torturing our fellow mankind is acceptable and commonplace behavior by the state. That in itself is an absolute abomination. The homeless and starving are left on the streets to suffer, while billionaires run around town on an endless quest of hording as much money and possessions as humanly possible. Our currency is constantly being manipulated and holds no real value in actuality. The population's faith in what should be equated to printed toilet paper is the only thing that keeps it afloat.

As a species we have lost our way. Being that "the self" is the prime motivating factor expressed (seemingly) in the actions of most individuals, we commit inhumanities against ourselves and our mother Earth, every single day without thinking twice. We have been brainwashed by a culture that worships ignorance, fear, nonsensical behavior, and "riches," that usually amounts to empty lives, psychological turbulence, and alienation amongst ourselves. This blatantly contradicts our fundamental aspects of unity and oneness we share at our inherent foundation of being. It is impossible for us to continue down this path for too much longer, while no significant actions have been taken to halt this widespread destructive behavior. Unless we all grow up REAL FAST, while taking the severely drastic measures needed to ensure any level of global sustainability, we will all be doomed to suffer the grim fate handed down to us by ourselves. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. We are a very immature and naïve species. It is imperative we snap out of it now if we want any kind of decent future.

What is everyone else's thoughts on our future outlook in this regard?

Well you summed it up in that last bit. We are very young in the grand scheme of things. I remember a scene from Cosmos in which Carl Sagan is standing in a huge room with hundreds, maybe thousands of large tiles on the floor. He starts in one corner saying "imagine this is the Big Bang" he then walks down talking of stars, planets, galaxies etc... forming, disappearing, new ones forming, possible alien societies doing the same, on & on for several minutes. At the last tile, he places a quarter in the corner & says "this... is all of human history." Plus, even in that short time, nothing you described in your first paragraph is new.

You & I may differ on how humankind will reach it's true potential, but we can agree that we aren't anywhere close at the moment, & it would be fascinating to watch it happen.

As to SHTF, I think the idea of it happening is scarier than what would happen during the actual event.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:48 PM

Well considering you're batting 0.000 on these predictions I'd say we're safe.

 

With every prediction his odds increase dramatically of getting one right.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:55 PM

As to SHTF, I think the idea of it happening is scarier than what would happen during the actual event.

 

I hope so...although I can't help but look over at whats going on in Egypt right now and think about the potentialities of what we could face one day. I think the human psyche is extremely fragile, and if certain conveniences and routines were taken away people could turn into animals very quickly. I'd like to think however that I have more faith in the human population than that though.

 



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:20 PM

I'm going to guess no. We are a really long way from revolution.

 

I think we can beat the poor down for at least another 50 years before the riots start to get in the way of MNF.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:21 PM

There are definitely numerous scenarios that could lead to the collapse of our society.

 

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The USA might eventually have a Louie XVI moment, due to the unfettered greed of those in control, but for that to occur the little people will need to suffer a lot more than they are currently.  The minions will need to be pushed over the edge.  As long as there is junk food, a couch to place your keister on, and a ginormous flat screen to watch sporting events, it is unlikely to happen. "Bread and Circuses".

 

Environmentally, we continue to trash the planet in the name of blind avarice and ignorance while mindlessly multiplying like yeast in a warm jar of sugar water.  The most plausible environmental doomsday scenario facing mankind may be overfishing and acidification of the oceans by unprecedented burning of fossil fuels. 

 

These human activities may cause a collapse of the ocean food chain before the end of the century, resulting in unprecedented levels of starvation around the globe.  An environmental disaster that would likely cause a period of instability and wars not seen in generations, if ever.

 

Overfished and under-protected: Oceans on the brink of catastrophic collapse

By Tom Levitt, for CNN
updated 11:07 AM EDT, Wed March 27, 2013

 

http://www.cnn.com/2...-climate-change

 

  

 

 

 

 



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:35 PM

Dont know about my lifetime but its closer than people think.

 

I'm convinced that my grandchildren will live in a country that is substantially different from the one I did.  Even to the point that I believe there will be a splitting USA and two new countries formed.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:41 PM

Dont know about my lifetime but its closer than people think.

 

I'm convinced that my grandchildren will live in a country that is substantially different from the one I did.  Even to the point that I believe there will be a splitting USA and two new countries formed.

 

As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S. In Moscow, Igor Panarin's Forecasts Are All the Rage; America 'Disintegrates' in 2010

http://online.wsj.co...0709638419.html



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:08 PM

As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S. In Moscow, Igor Panarin's Forecasts Are All the Rage; America 'Disintegrates' in 2010

http://online.wsj.co...0709638419.html

 

 

I dont know about all of that...

 

But I do think that its clear to anyone who is looking that our increasing intolerance of each others political views and inability to reach compromise are steadily leading us to a point where our government can not function in a meaningful way.  The political brinksmanship and pandering to the extremes of any and all sides has rendered our leaders impotent to govern in anything remotely resembling a fair and just government.

 

 



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:59 PM

I dont know about all of that...

 

But I do think that its clear to anyone who is looking that our increasing intolerance of each others political views and inability to reach compromise are steadily leading us to a point where our government can not function in a meaningful way.  The political brinksmanship and pandering to the extremes of any and all sides has rendered our leaders impotent to govern in anything remotely resembling a fair and just government.

 

It would take a lot more than anything we've experienced so far to convince the average American to put down their bag of cheese puffs, get off the couch, and risk their lives for either political party's core beliefs.

 

Yes, there is a lot of rhetoric being spewed by pundits on the airwaves, but the reality is there hasn't been much of a difference between the compassionate conservatives and socialist liberals ruling the land for the last several decades.  The one constant throughout that time has been the rich getting richer and just about everyone else's standard of living stagnating or getting worse.  Whatever the 1%ers can do to take the spotlight off that reality is a good thing.  If that means dividing the remaining 99% against themselves by using propaganda, superstitious beliefs and bigotry, so be it.

 

The civil war only took place because the South's landed gentry and rich Northern industrialists couldn't compromise on economic policy any longer.  The war was essentially a battle of the 1%ers.  The average Southerner had little to gain and much to lose from conflict.  

 

Future secessions would only be possible if a significant number of moneyed elite in our society decide it was in their best interests (highly unlikely).  They would need to manipulate the general public into needlessly throwing away their relatively comfortable lives.  Our average citizen may not be that smart, but I doubt they are that stupid (again).



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

Every war is a battle of 1%ers.  




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