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micnificent28

Hardy wants to get paid.

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He has enough confidence to believe he can turn anyone into a contender.

 

Looks at his football past and tell me if there is more change or stability. As much as people don't want to believe it, Cam may not be a Panther until retirement.

 

maybe i read more interviews than you do. where cam states i finally have realized i can't do this by myself. you get into the pros and everybody is on your level. everybody is an all american, everybody has won awards. these are the elite and i can't do it by myself.

 

well zod, i just flat out disagree with you. could he leave? yea it could happen. but it would be at the detriment of this football team imo and i don't think Cam would leave for more money if we have a contender here. Cam is not Hardy.

 

but i'm done with this discussion because this is all speculation and i'm riding a high right now from a great game from our Defense.

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Flacco was making it rain TD's in the playoffs. He was far far far from "game managing"

 

He had a great playoff run, but Flacco's play style is, and always will be, a game manager. He has a big arm and isn't asked to throw more than 25 times a game on average. He is a very good game manager, but that's all he is. Jake was a game manager with a gunslinger mentality when he did throw the ball. Jake also had a few great playoff runs and one spectacular superbowl, but no one was mistaking Jake for Tom Brady after his superbowl play. Let's not be fools here. 

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so throwing for 3800 yards and 22 TDs is considered a game manager? Flacco attempted 33 passes for over 280 yards and 3 passing TDs in the super bowl. that sounds more then a game manager.

 

Those are exactly game manager type statistics.......

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If CJ doesn't restructure I can't see paying Hardy. I'll take the minimum 3rd round compensatory pick if tagging him after this year and trying to shop him doesn't work.

 

Sucks that our cap is so out of balance that it would force us to lose good talent, but the situation is what it is and we can't toss out money that we don't have.

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It's mind boggling how some people are having even a little doubt in Cam when he obviously needs more weapons, the media talk about Carolina needs to "get the kid help" (heath Evans) until he has that and not just weapons but coaching too I will ride with him...he is a winner but needs more tools...Cam in my opinion is far from a Mark Sanchez with only two good years and can't see him being a Alex smith etc

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I'll have to disagree with ya Floppin.

No worries :)

 

looking at the gif from last night in your signature, Wes Horton blew up his man to help Keek get in the backfield. If he and Frank can continue to improve, then maybe Hardy would be let go

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Trade Hardy now and get something out of him IF, and only IF, you think you can get something that will help us THIS YEAR! A good, solid, starting not a backup OL and picks. Otherwise, keep him and try to win a superbowl. Besides, if he is playin for a big contract next year, he will be playing lights out! Then next year we can start Alexander.

So in short, keep him, unless you can get a solid starting OL, other solid player, or high quality pick PERIOD

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Some people interchange game manager with pocket passer me thinks

 

When you throw the ball 20-25 times a game on average, you're a game manager. When you throw the ball 30-40 times a game, you are on a team that is built around throwing the ball. 

 

QB's that throw the ball 20-25 times a game with very good TD/Int ratio's and high completion percentages are good game managers....and those who don't are bad ones. Rex Grossman - bad game manager, Joe Flacco: Good Game manager. Drew Brees: Good Pocket Passer.

 

Hell Andy fuging Dalton threw the ball more than Joe Flacco did last year and he's the very definition of Game Manager. 

 

Flacco is very good at what he does, but he's not a featured QB for that offense, he's an exceptional game manager who's used to keep the defense honest and to throw out of a run-designed offense in order to continue to move the football. 

 

Here's the difference - In New Orleans, they design the offense to allow for Brees to throw as much as possible, same thing in New England and Greenbay.....the Ravens offense is designed to make the QB throw as little as possible as is required to continue to the flow of the offense: IE game management. 

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looking at the gif from last night in your signature, Wes Horton blew up his man to help Keek get in the backfield. If he and Frank can continue to improve, then maybe Hardy would be let go

 

I noticed that too a few minutes ago. 

Having quality DE's stacked up like cord wood wouldn't be a particularly bad issue to have.

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Hardy would be stupid if he didn't seek to get paid big. You have to understand that you can play a few years and you need to get as mush as you can. Teams will cut you without giving it a second thought. It would be great if he stayed a Panther, but you have to understand that they aren't fans. 

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Those are exactly game manager type statistics.......

 

those are far from game manager type of stats. during the regular season he avg 33 throws a game, with the lowest being 8 because he got pulled in the final regular season game. his highest attempts was 51. that is far from a game manager QB.

 

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