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#16 xtheronx

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:03 AM

wow .. what does DWill have to do to gain the respect of fans??

be careful what you wish for!

personally - I'm not worried about DWill .. he'll have a great year

#17 redbuddha

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:03 AM

It's sad I had the time I had the time to update my signs stats during the game!

#18 jtm

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:04 AM

Barner needs to quit fumbling before he is trusted. I like him for the fact that he can catch out of the backfield. Don't forget about Tolbert. I'm fine with DW, Barner, and Tolbert.

I agree on Stew, I think his wheels are starting to come off. He'll play in week 2 or 3, because that is what he does, but I suspect nagging injuries to really plague him moving forward.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:07 AM

wow .. what does DWill have to do to gain the respect of fans??

 

Gain positive yards consistently.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:08 AM

Barner needs to quit fumbling before he is trusted.

 

1 fumble on his first NFL carry and he has a fumble problem? People are really eager to paint him with that brush for some reason.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:11 AM

wow .. what does DWill have to do to gain the respect of fans??

be careful what you wish for!

personally - I'm not worried about DWill .. he'll have a great year


He didn't have a great year last year behind a weak OL...

And too many people want to make it a Williams thing....sure we are talking him....but it is more a rush attack arguement. How all the pieces fit

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:13 AM

This is all fine and good but Barner has shown absolutely NO ability to block.  NONE.  He might as well just tell Cam when it is coming because he doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:14 AM

This is all fine and good but Barner has shown absolutely NO ability to block.  NONE.  He might as well just tell Cam when it is coming because he doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it.

 

So you are saying Barner should be on our O-Line?



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:20 AM

They will wait untill we are 1-5 before they make this change.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:20 AM

You make an interesting point but I'm not sure how well Barner (or anyone his size) will hold up under all that punishment.

 

With Stewart in limbo I'd like to see Tolbert be used more in the running game (when he's back) and I suspect we will. Put Brockel in at FB and let Tolbert pound the defense, then bring in DeAngelo/Barner when the defense is worn out for a change of pace. 

 

The more I watch our oline struggle, the more I realize how much we're going to need the read option to create running lanes. 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:26 AM

Williams peaked 4 years ago anyway

He isn't going to get any better

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:27 AM

Fans don't want to hear this, but DeAngelo is a wily veteran and may be making "career decisions" during these preseason games. On the other hand, Barner is a young buck trying to prove himself by diving head-long into the fray. 

 

Not making excuses for DeAngelo, just pointing out something that needs to be considered... when the real games start you may see DeAngelo be more aggressive. 



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:30 AM

Fans don't want to hear this, but DeAngelo is a wily veteran and may be making "career decisions" during these preseason games. On the other hand, Barner is a young buck trying to prove himself by diving head-long into the fray.

Not making excuses for DeAngelo, just pointing out something that needs to be considered... when the real games start you may see DeAngelo be more aggressive.


But that doesn't explain why Williams was so average in the majority of our games last with poor OL play

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:33 AM

This reminds me of the "Foster or Williams" discussions we had in the Fox era. 

 

Barner showed us that he just can't block worth diddly last night, so I expect Williams to be in there just to provide Newton with a little protection



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:45 AM

Would like to use barner in the slot some and get him in space. Also, would like to see power I with Tolbert at fullback. Barner is going to need work at pass blocking, but if our OC is competent, we can incorporate some 3 step drops whenever barner is in.



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