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#25 Anybodyhome

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 05:09 PM

I like Scott a lot. Great golfer and a stand up guy. Glad to see him win.

 

Yep, agreed.



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:44 PM

I thought Tiger was out of it too, but he played well today and missed a playoff by about and then inch.

I don't hate tiger, he's a great golfer. Although he's a poor example on the course sometimes the problem I have, like AnybodyHome, is the media slobbering over him.

He's right, they won't talk much about Scott winning tomorrow very much, they'll talk about Tiger almost winning more... Its dumb.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:23 PM

Halfway through the 3rd round, Rickie Fowler, Kuchar and Webb Simpson are all tied on top at -10.

 

But ESPN keeps telling us Tiger is "lurking"....  just one small problem. He's 4 holes ahead of the leaders, is +1 for the day and is in 17th place...

 

He'll probably be 7-8 shots behind by the end of Round 3, but if you listen to the talking heads, he's "in the hunt" or "prowling just behind the leaders" or some such other idiot analogy or pure fabrication just to get viewers.

 

 

Too funny.

 

Can this place ever have a golf thread that isn't littered with people pissing and moaning about Tiger Woods?

 

 

Me thinks not.

 

Quite an effort to do what Tiger did today with a back in spasm. 

 

Tiger's win rate dropped to like 40% I think and he only has 3 more PGA wins and $3,000,000 in prize money than his nearest competitor.

Clearly he sucks.

 

But seriously, ESPN, Golf Channel, CBS, whoever is only going for ratings. Blame the casual Golf Fan, Tiger is one of the few names they know. Networks want their attention so they can show them commercials, simple as that.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:26 AM

No, because they don't get any media coverage... at all....ever...

 

...who won today? Everyone forgotten already?

 

I don't know where you get the idea it's just the media orchestrating all this coverage.

 

I'm in the car A LOT, and I listen to PGA Tour radio on XM A LOT.

 

Most of the shows on this station are call in shows.  The funny thing is even when the hosts never even mention Tiger the topics brought up by the callers always leads to Tiger.

 

I remember a couple months ago there was a call in by one of the slathering Tiger haters to the morning show where he complained about the coverage Tiger gets and he's tired of the media talking about Tiger and only Tiger.

 

The host succinctly pointed out that he never mentioned the name Tiger that morning, that he introduced at least 10 subjects that were possible fodder for that day and not one of them included Tiger.

 

He went on to say that every call mentioning Tiger he consciously tried to change the topic away from Tiger.

 

BUT, Tiger was the overwhelming topic of converstion that day.  And, it wasn't even a day when there was breaking Tiger news, he hadn't even played the week previous.

 

Look, golf would have nowhere near the popularity it currently has if not for Tiger.  As a matter of fact before Tiger came on the scene I would bet professional golf was on the way out.  It had reached it's popularity height years before and was rapidly on the way down to obscurity.

 

I don't really have trouble understand peoples motives for not being too fond of Tiger, I do have trouble understanding people that go out of their way to have a need to show their distaste for him.

 

You started a thread to talk about Tiger and your main complaint is that too many people talk about Tiger

 

Is something wrong with that picture.  Reminds me of the kid that killed his parents then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:15 AM

 

 

Look, golf would have nowhere near the popularity it currently has if not for Tiger.  As a matter of fact before Tiger came on the scene I would bet professional golf was on the way out.  It had reached it's popularity height years before and was rapidly on the way down to obscurity.

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure where you get this.  Golf was on it's way out?  How?

 

I'm not denying that Tiger had an impact on the popularity of the game, especially for young people, but on it's way out?  Hardly.

 

 

People love a winner.  Tiger came on the tour and dominated for years, people love that...  see also Michael Jordan and guys of that type for proof of this.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:48 AM

My issue isn't with Tiger himself because I do not know the guy. As a matter of fact, I'm sure the vast majority of people don't know him. I have the same reaction and feelings about a lot of celebs/people and their almost cult-like following.

 

People love Tiger and will follow him to the ends of the Earth, or a golf tournament. But he's far from being approachable, likeable, friendly or even human.

 

People love Dale Earnhardt, Jr. too, and he seems to be a nice guy and somewhat approachable and friendly. But his level of success in his chosen profession is nowhere close to Tiger, relatively speaking. 

 

So, is it that people love a winner? Because Dale Earnhardt, Jr. certainly isn't a winner.

 

Kobe Bryant is another winner who is loved by fans, but is very much like Tiger in that he's very aloof, not real friendly and is sometimes a downright arrogant a$$ during pressers and interviews.

 

Then, on the opposite side of that coin is a guy like Phil Mickelson, who has drawn the ire of more than a few posters on this board even. But he's also a winner and a genuinely nice guy. Some have claimed he's a jerk around his competitors, but hey, when I'm competing, I'm there to win, not make friends.

 

So, yes, while the fans simply dictate via TV viewership and ratings who the media covers, I'm still trying to figure out what the viewing public uses as criteria when choosing their sports idols. 



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:19 AM


 

So, yes, while the fans simply dictate via TV viewership and ratings who the media covers, I'm still trying to figure out what the viewing public uses as criteria when choosing their sports idols. 

 

When I decide whether or not I like a sports player, or an actor or actress, I base it on their performances in their craft.

 

I couldn't care less what they do in the hours I am not watching them work. 

 

I have a friend who refuses to watch Tom Cruise because she doesn't agree with his religion, she won't watch Susan Sarandon because she doesn't agree with her politics.

 

You know the only thing I care about Tom & Susan?  What they do during that 2 hours I am watching them work.  I'd rather know my neighbors opinions on politics rather than Susan Sarandon or Bruce Springsteen.

 

I like Tiger because I enjoy watching him play and compete on the golf course.  As far as I'm concerned, I shouldn't even KNOW what his relationship is with his wife, or girlfriend, or a friggin goat for that matter.

 

Whether or not Tiger gives to the United Way, or signs 10 autographs instead of 100, or smiles like a goofy dickhead after hitting a poor shot is of no concern to me.

 

I'm part of the viewing public and I choose my favorite athletes based on past and present performance.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:24 AM

Not sure where you get this.  Golf was on it's way out?  How?

 

I'm not denying that Tiger had an impact on the popularity of the game, especially for young people, but on it's way out?  Hardly.

 

 

People love a winner.  Tiger came on the tour and dominated for years, people love that...  see also Michael Jordan and guys of that type for proof of this.

 

Ratings were stagnant.  Purses were stagnant.

 

The number of younger golfers entering the game was shrinking.

 

Arnold, Gary, Jack were pretty much finished.

 

Tiger energized everything having to do with the game.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:27 AM

Ratings were stagnant.  Purses were stagnant.

 

The number of younger golfers entering the game was shrinking.

 

Arnold, Gary, Jack were pretty much finished.

 

Tiger energized everything having to do with the game.

 

Again, I'm not denying Tiger had an effect...  but to say that golf was dying?  I think you're dead wrong.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:29 AM

Also, FYI... it's not just Tiger that brings in the ratings...

 

 

http://blogs.golf.co...-mickelson.html

 

 

 

Of course, before Pebble Beach, weekend golf ratings were off the chart as viewers tuned in to watch Phil Mickelson's win at the Phoenix Open (up 65 percent) and Tiger Woods's win at the Farmers Insurance Open (up 85 percent). The downward trend continued at the Accenture Match Play Championship last weekend after Woods and Rory McIlroy lost in the first round. (Mickelson didn't play the event.) 
 

 

 



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:30 AM

Again, I'm not denying Tiger had an effect...  but to say that golf was dying?  I think you're dead wrong.

 

Okay, instead of splitting hairs, the sport was not growing.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:34 AM

Okay, instead of splitting hairs, the sport was not growing.

 

Yeah I can agree with that.  But I suspect that had been the case for many years.

 

Before Tiger there were plenty of stars playing... Tom Watson, Ernie Els, David Duval (at the time)... hell, even John Daly.

 

Phil was up and coming then too...

 

 

Tiger just came in and dominated like no one had done since Nicklaus and it did garner a lot of attention, particularly since he was so young.