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Cam and his accuracy issues.

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CRA    12,270

Cam needs to work on his short game...

I don't think he is inaccurate mid to deep. Just your standard misfires that all QBs make...

As far as the other young QBs go (excluding Luck), the others weren't asked to go out and make the tough throws all game each week like Newton was (and that started as a rookie)

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mcdougal    1,000

lol that was actually funny cause it's so true.

 

You go around the internet and you would swear that Andrew Luck had Aaaron Rodger's numbers by the way people talk about him.

 

The question is why is Brandon Weedon fighting for his job when his QB rating is in "Andrew Luck terriority"?

 

But as someone has already pointed out: the media is so invested in Luck being great that he would have to consistently have Sanchez stats for 5 years and his team would have to start losing. Even if he has Mark's stats...the media will declare his place in the HOF secure.

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mcdougal    1,000

Cam needs to work on his short game...

I don't think he is inaccurate mid to deep. Just your standard misfires that all QBs make...

As far as the other young QBs go (excluding Luck), the others weren't asked to go out and make the tough throws all game each week like Newton was (and that started as a rookie)

 

I have noticed this too. I can't claim to be a NFL QB expert but it just seems like a lot of the elite QBs make far more throws to wide open WR than ones that require tremendous timing and touch. Of course they make those throws all the time but 6/10 completions are to guys that have a lot of space and maybe 2/10 are what I would call difficult.

 

Cam, in my opinion, attempts far too many of these difficult passes. Is it the system? Or Cam? Or the plays being called?

 

Peyton Manning seems to be interested in getting the ball to his play makers and letting them work. Our offense seems to be interested in Cam making plays.

 

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carolina-chuck    2,761

Peyton Manning seems to be interested in getting the ball to his play makers and letting them work. Our offense seems to be interested in Cam making plays.

Bc Manning and Brady can spread the ball quickly.

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FootballMaestro    2,500

Cam needs to work on his short game...

I don't think he is inaccurate mid to deep. Just your standard misfires that all QBs make...

As far as the other young QBs go (excluding Luck), the others weren't asked to go out and make the tough throws all game each week like Newton was (and that started as a rookie)

 

 

Agreed.

 

I would like to see a mixture. 

 

Working the short games at times, for a while. Then Boom!! Hit em with the bomb or longer intermediate throw. Other times, come out with the bomb, or end zone throw on the first play of the drive, catching the defense off guard. At other times, run the hurry up offense, etc. 

 

The Panthers just have to keep the defense guessing in all type of ways, and running the plays/throws that are working, can't be stopped in a game, instead of doing what the "Know it all" OC wants to do. 

 

I hope to see that this year. Just throw it where the defenders "Ain't". Lol

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FootballMaestro    2,500

I have noticed this too. I can't claim to be a NFL QB expert but it just seems like a lot of the elite QBs make far more throws to wide open WR than ones that require tremendous timing and touch. Of course they make those throws all the time but 6/10 completions are to guys that have a lot of space and maybe 2/10 are what I would call difficult.

 

Cam, in my opinion, attempts far too many of these difficult passes. Is it the system? Or Cam? Or the plays being called?

 

Peyton Manning seems to be interested in getting the ball to his play makers and letting them work. Our offense seems to be interested in Cam making plays.

 

 

-Part of that is the Panthers scheme (they don't trick the defense well enough)

-Part of it's the Panthers (receivers don't get open, enough separation). 

-And part of it's Cam (not seeing the open receiver soon enough, or forcing it to a complaining, but double covered Steve Smith). 

 

Hopefully, the offense, receivers, and Cam will all bet better at this the upcoming season. 

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Mr. Scot    34,975

I think it's more correct to say he has a consistency problem, but that has a lot to do with the type of QB he is.

Have said it before: Newton's never going to be a pinpoint accurate passer like Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Rather, like Brett Favre, he's going to tend toward a mix of "holy cow" and "what the [email protected]&%". You'll see him within the same game make passes with laser accuracy followed up by passes that look like he threw with his eyes closed. Favre did it his entire career.

You can't coach that kind of thing out of a natural gunslinger. Nor should you try. That inner confidence that results in the occasional "oh no" is also what produces all those moments of "oh yeah".

Me? I'm okay with that.

Brett Favre and John Elway both got Super Bowl rings playing that way. Jake Delhomme came pretty darn close. You can win with a guy who's more daredevil than surgeon as long as you understand that's who he is and build your offense appropriately around him.

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chubs2496    280

I think it's more correct to say he has a consistency problem, but that has a lot to do with the type of QB he is.

Have said it before: Newton's never going to be a pinpoint accurate passer like Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Rather, like Brett Favre, he's going to tend toward a mix of "holy cow" and "what the [email protected]&%". You'll see him within the same game make passes with laser accuracy followed up by passes that look like he threw with his eyes closed. Favre did it his entire career.

You can't coach that kind of thing out of a natural gunslinger. Nor should you try. That inner confidence that results in the occasional "oh no" is also what produces all those moments of "oh yeah".

Me? I'm okay with that.

Brett Favre and John Elway both got Super Bowl rings playing that way. Jake Delhomme came pretty darn close. You can win with a guy who's more daredevil than surgeon as long as you understand that's who he is and build your offense appropriately around him.

We'll said.

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FootballMaestro    2,500

I think it's more correct to say he has a consistency problem, but that has a lot to do with the type of QB he is.

Have said it before: Newton's never going to be a pinpoint accurate passer like Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Rather, like Brett Favre, he's going to tend toward a mix of "holy cow" and "what the [email protected]&%". You'll see him within the same game make passes with laser accuracy followed up by passes that look like he threw with his eyes closed. Favre did it his entire career.

You can't coach that kind of thing out of a natural gunslinger. Nor should you try. That inner confidence that results in the occasional "oh no" is also what produces all those moments of "oh yeah".

Me? I'm okay with that.

Brett Favre and John Elway both got Super Bowl rings playing that way. Jake Delhomme came pretty darn close. You can win with a guy who's more daredevil than surgeon as long as you understand that's who he is and build your offense appropriately around him.

 

Good points.

 

The only this is; we don't know if he can be "a surgeon" like Brees, Brady" and manning are now, until he has adequate protection and a few more years in the league. So let's not automatically write him off yet (though I know you're saying he's good enough NOW as is). I get that. 

 

Remember, Drew Brees bounced around the league initially. Brady didn't start right away, and Manning had a boatload of INT's his Rookie year. But they all got better. Cam claims he wants to be the best, and works hard. So Maybe he'll do the same? We also can't forget both Manning, and Brady look horrible with out adequate protection and schemes. Cam at least needs a good, consistent O Line, to help his inner "surgeon-like" ability blossom as well. . 

 

 

We'll see?

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FootballMaestro    2,500

Isn't it ironic, that Washington, Seattle, and San Francisco ran more running than passing plays in 2012, but everyone in the media always discusses their QB's first, when their not even the first option on offense? SMH

 

Things that make you go hummh?

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Fiz    878

I always like pointing out cam is like the third tallest qb in the league throwing to maybe the shortest number one wr.

I don't know if that has an effect but it definitely makes not great throws look worse.

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Mr. Scot    34,975

Newton's height gives him phenomenal field vision.  It's one of his better traits.

 

Try finding a friend in a crowded room.  Then try it standing on a chair.  That'll give you an idea of Newton's advantages.

 

(it'll also get you a lot of weird looks) :unsure:

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