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Pat Yas has the Panthers finishing 7-9

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We skipping two games? :unsure:

Edit: Never mind. Read it wrong :(


6 to 8 wins.

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7-9 is the default, safe bet.

 

I bet the Falcons surprise everyone ... by having a bad season. TB will be the darkhorse in our division. 

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6 to 8 wins.


Got it. I had it as W-L :lol:

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BTW "wiseguys" hate Atlanta:

 


Last May, when season win totals were released and the Falcons number of victories was put at 10, I wrote a very polite take down of Atlanta. I believed the team's 8-0 start to 2012, propelled by a 4-0 start with wins over the Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers and Panthers, was a fraud. I wrote, "The Chiefs were, well, the worst team in football. The Broncos nearly came back to win after three first-half Peyton Manning interceptions. The Chargers were doing their annual September of self-discovery (which happened to last all season). And the Panthers game was won as much because Cam Newton fumbled trying to ice it on a short-yardage scramble as it was by a Matty Ice bomb. Break all this down according to the process, and not just the results, and you get a pretty good look at an inconsistent group whose status was elevated by public perception. In the second half of the season, the Falcons lost a game to each of their division rivals and finished 5-3."

 
In that same column, my handicapping buddy, The SportsBoss, pointed out that last year, "Atlanta played the third-easiest schedule, was plus-13 in turnover differential and, using the Pythagorean theorem of wins based on points, they won two more than they should have last year. I expect a regression on the turnovers and I have them as playing the eighth-toughest schedule. If their sked improves that much and their TO margin regresses just a bit and they play the same way they did last year, they are probably a .500 team."
 
When I was in Vegas this past weekend, no one I spoke to had changed their tune about the Falcons. Put simply, one wiseguy said to me, "I don't see them winning nine games."

 

 

 

yeah, i wasn't that impressed with them either. there's no doubting the power of that passing game, but really, that's all they have.

 

they were the luckiest team in the league last year. that's not just homer hate...that part you quoted is a very accurate description.

 

we should have swept them. we shouldn't have been swept by the bucs, either, but the falcons...that was pretty inexcusable. they weren't that good and i do expect some regression from them.

 

overall, i'm not really that impressed with anyone in the NFCS at the moment.

 

ATL's OL is worse than ours and their defense is crap. all they have is that passing game.

 

the saints picking up rob ryan won't help much. that D will still suck, but i think they end up winning the division or at least having the better record of all the teams.

 

the bucs are being run by an average college coach. i don't respect them at all and the fact that we got swept by them is embarrassing. if it were up to me, rivera would be fired the next day if the bucs swept us again or if they beat us in charlotte. we can't have that.

 

of course we have OL problems and are one lost smitty or cam away from disaster. we have a coach who has a history of bad game management who chose as his OC a coach who has a history of bad game management.

 

if any team in the NFCS wins 10 or more, i will have no problem (at this point) in calling it luck.

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I bet the Falcons surprise everyone ... by having a bad season. TB will be the darkhorse in our division. 

 

 

Second that.

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I see ATL missing the playoffs personally

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I had the Cats at 8-8 earlier but after watching that amazing defense against Baltimore last Thursday night I think the D will win at least 2 games by themselves
10-6 is very reasonable :)

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As much as we don't like it, with what we have seen in the preseason, Pat's prediction looks about right.

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yeah, i wasn't that impressed with them either. there's no doubting the power of that passing game, but really, that's all they have.

 

they were the luckiest team in the league last year. that's not just homer hate...that part you quoted is a very accurate description.

 

we should have swept them. we shouldn't have been swept by the bucs, either, but the falcons...that was pretty inexcusable. they weren't that good and i do expect some regression from them.

 

overall, i'm not really that impressed with anyone in the NFCS at the moment.

 

ATL's OL is worse than ours and their defense is crap. all they have is that passing game.

 

the saints picking up rob ryan won't help much. that D will still suck, but i think they end up winning the division or at least having the better record of all the teams.

 

the bucs are being run by an average college coach. i don't respect them at all and the fact that we got swept by them is embarrassing. if it were up to me, rivera would be fired the next day if the bucs swept us again or if they beat us in charlotte. we can't have that.

 

of course we have OL problems and are one lost smitty or cam away from disaster. we have a coach who has a history of bad game management who chose as his OC a coach who has a history of bad game management.

 

if any team in the NFCS wins 10 or more, i will have no problem (at this point) in calling it luck.

 

Agreed, I can see 9 wins winning the division. If I put my homer glasses on for a minute, I can easily see the NFC South ending up something like this:

 

Carolina 9-7

Atlanta 8-8

New Orleans 7-9

Tampa Bay 5-11

 

Atlanta for reasons mentioned above.

 

New Orleans - I don't think getting Sean Payton back is going to magically make that defense 3+ games better.  Also, Rob Ryan has been an NFL DC in 9 different seasons and has never made the playoffs, so we got that karma going for us as well.

 

I don't get the hype around Tampa - their defense will be improved, but they will always be held back by their QB situation. Honestly, while their secondary will be much improved, the rest of their defense doesn't scare me. I'd rather have our front 7 and secondary than their front 7 and secondary. A great pass rush can mitigate a mediocre secondary, whereas if you give a QB enough time, he can find a hole in a great secondary.

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I like Pat Y just fine, and I don't think 7-9 is a huge slight and could very well be accurate.  I personally think the Bucs are a lot better than what some people think, and the Saints can potentially win 9 games with Brees, even given how hideous their defense will be.  I vehemently disagree about the Falcons being a SB winner or even contender though. 

 

But predictions are just that...

 

Just for shiggles (and perspective on the fact no one really knows), here are some of the vaunted predictions for the 2003 Panthers.

 

Football Outsiders

NFC South: Tampa Bay 11-5, Atlanta 9-7, New Orleans 8-8, Carolina 6-10

 

Sports Illustrated, on what it would take for the Panthers to make the playoffs

"They leave the NFC South and accept John Swofford's invitation to become the ACC's 12th team, citing academic reasons and a promise for basketball tournament tickets. They hold off Miami in the ACC Championship Game and advance to the Orange Bowl."

 

 

4)      Carolina (6-10) - John Fox’s squad over-achieved last year. This year they settle back to normality.

 

 

The season is long and unpredictable.  Pretty much every publication had the  Panthers between 6-10 & 8-8.

 

FWIW, Pat lives in Tampa, and has been sucking NO & ATL off at every juncture he can, so there is that too to consider

 

Clearly someone who's up to date with the latest in Carolina.  Very trustworthy review.

 

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Clearly someone who's up to date with the latest in Carolina.  Very trustworthy review.

 

 

Clearly you did not read the entire post.

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Clearly you did not read the entire post.

 

ahh...missed the 2003 part.

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