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Spotrac's Greg Hardy Contract Forecast(Bigger than CJ'S deal)

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A million per sack if he has a good year.

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We needed CJ much worse at the time than we need Hardy now.

 

No way in hell I would do that deal.

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If Hardy gets that there is no way Cam gets less than 100 mil

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We'll be drafting jadaveon anyway so let him walk.

 

Jadeveon will have a torn ACL midway through the season... 

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CJ and Hardy share the same agent, correct?

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We can only have so many huge contract players but I think the D-line is the best place to sink tons of money besides the QB position. 

 

Now, that's not to say I'd be happy with a deal that huge.  There are different variables every year.  If that website had done the same thing when CJ was getting his what would the contract have looked like?   We overpaid by quite a bit because there was a strong market for DE and Atlanta was a leader in wanting CJ.  Those are the two reasons we overpaid.  

 

With Hardy, it's a year before his contract is up.  The market isn't the same as it was when CJ got paid.  We can still use the franchise tag on him and almost get out cheaper to pay him that over 2 years after this year.  He's making almost nothing now.  Next year would be around 11 million for the tag and 13.5 or so for teh year after.  So, in essense it's the same as resigning him on a new 3 year deal for 25 million and none of it except the present year is guanteed.  He get hurt at any point we can cut him and only owe him that years salery. 

 

That's our leverage and why Hardy will not get an 80 million dollar contract. 

 

There is no one else except Cam we would franchaise and we would not have to do that for another two years. 

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He'll get paid his money for sure. It won't be this insane, but he'll get it. $60 million, my guess. Guys have different definitions of "proven". Hardy has had one season already, with no defensive tackles, that would make teams pay him.

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Given that the cap is flat and there will be tons of free agents, he won't get a huge contract on the order of some of those mentioned unless it is somewhere else.  Look at Chris Long last year with a 5 year, 60 million contract.  This offseason the money went down and next year it will go down even more.  The days of the huge contracts are done until the cap goes up.

 

I am concerned that we won't get a contract done as his agent will hold out for too much and want to shop around.

 

Now that I said it, he will sign tomorrow.

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There is no one else except Cam we would franchaise and we would not have to do that for another two years. 

 

if talking about tagging.

 

If Cam is franchised it means his 5th year option was picked up....which means he and Luke's rookie deals run out at same time.

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What about the possibility of a shorter deal with more of a % guaranteed money.  Does that ever happen with a player in his situation?  Basically is it long-term deal or bust?

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if talking about tagging.

 

If Cam is franchised it means his 5th year option was picked up....which means he and Luke's rookie deals run out at same time.

don't all top 10 (or is it 15) come with the 5th year option automatically built in? or it might even span all 1st rounders. it'd be a question to ask one of the contract dudes or jones/person

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Not worth it. Enjoy the Raiders.

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