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What positions are the Saints supposedly lacking in 3-4?

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New defensive philosophy that is very similiar to what they had been doing with GW for 3 years has been picked up pretty well so far according to players when interviewed and also according to coaches interviews. So unless both player and coaches are flat out lying AND you have some direct info to Saints locker room and meetings, you're wrong.

The same "shitty defense" is bringing back just 5 guys and 4 of those were on 2009 superbowl winning defense that faced 3 HOF QBs along the way

This preseason the Saints defense created 18 sacks and 71 QB pressure without a ton of blitzes, Panther only had 15 sacks and 54 QB pressures. So if those numbers mean Saints had zero pass rush, then I ask you why is Panthers pass rush so sad and nonexistent?

 

you'll find out how wrong you are when the seasons starts...

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New defensive philosophy that is very similiar to what they had been doing with GW for 3 years has been picked up pretty well so far according to players when interviewed and also according to coaches interviews. So unless both player and coaches are flat out lying AND you have some direct info to Saints locker room and meetings, you're wrong.

The same "shitty defense" is bringing back just 5 guys and 4 of those were on 2009 superbowl winning defense that faced 3 HOF QBs along the way

This preseason the Saints defense created 18 sacks and 71 QB pressure without a ton of blitzes, Panther only had 15 sacks and 54 QB pressures. So if those numbers mean Saints had zero pass rush, then I ask you why is Panthers pass rush so sad and nonexistent?

 

I guess you'll be fine, then.  What are you worried about?  You'll score >50ppg and hold teams to <10ppg.  Best team in the history of everness.

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PS You're fat.

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did you mean to post this on the saints board?

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the saints really need a NT for the 3-4, a big fatass to plug up the middle and basically just be someone you can't move or get rid of

 

in other words, they should sign you

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the saints really need a NT for the 3-4, a big fatass to plug up the middle and basically just be someone you can't move or get rid of

in other words, they should sign you

or rob ryan?

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I keep reading the same comments on rivals board, but yet nobody can elaborate.

First off, lets get the Will Smith was best player thing out the way. Last year he was worst graded guy on entire team and ranked 108 out of 109 of all 4-3 DE's. the only thing he brought was veteran leadership since he's been with team for a while, but he was last year WORST player on defense. To put it in perspective, Gallette had more sacks and about the same QB pressures in just 460 snaps compared to Smiths 1089 snaps.

Now for the "they don't have 3-4 personnel" statement.

As for personnel, lets break it down. The DBs are not affected by 3-4 or 4-3 and with addition of Vacarro, Greer healthy, P Rob looking decent in preseason, Corey White continuing the improvement streak started last 3 games of last year, and finally Ryan understanding Harper is best used near the line in run support and blitz and not in coverage, the DB group will be fine.

Now for the 3-4 personnel, the front 3 not only have looked solid, we have guys with future breakout status not only playing but in that depth. Cam and Hicks have been great with Bunkley solid in middle with some young raw talent behind them. I don't think with the guys at front 3 anyone would say we don't have good guys up there or lack personnel.

Finally the one glaring weakness is obviously the 4 LBs. Lofton is experienced and pretty solid 3 down LB on inside, but the other guys are question marks with no full time playing and both OLB spending preseason hurt. In limited play Tez and Gallette have both put up great numbers and Gallette has played about half of the snaps last year, but Tez only played a little over 100 snaps of a 1100 snap season, so they are unproven as full year players.

Then Vilmas spot is biggest question mark, is he healthy enough to play after another knee surgery? The good news is Hawthorne is a vet that played great in preseason and can play either inside or outside.

So bottom line, I believe we have the guys for 3-4, yet the LB core is the only question due to lack of playtime and not much depth. On the other hand most defensive plays are in sub packages, so base 3-4 isn't a big alignment anyway, and the play so farchas been really good at most positions,

So name the exact position the Saints don't have to play 3-4?

so the bench from the worst defense in nfl history is being promoted to the starting ranks & you're happy about that? that makes 2 of us. You sure your a saints fan?

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did you mean to post this on the saints board?

Funny, no matter where I post, when I post, or the subject, there is always one certainty, my resident stalker is there reading and commenting every time. It's cool, I'm used to having the jealous poors hanging on my every word, one of the perks/curses of growing up very wealthy. Don't worry Phil, I'll acknowledge you if I need a drink poured.

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Funny, no matter where I post, when I post, or the subject, there is always one certainty, my resident stalker is there reading and commenting every time. It's cool, I'm used to having the jealous poors hanging on my every word, one of the perks/curses of growing up very wealthy. Don't worry Phil, I'll acknowledge you if I need a drink poured.

 

uhh ive been perusing these boards for far longer than your miserable residency here so responding to the tripe you vomit all over the internet isn't outside my daily range of browsing. you're the one farting around on another team's message board to the tune of a thousand posts in about a year erstwhile demanding respect for your awesometacular life

 

eat less

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the saints really need a NT for the 3-4, a big fatass to plug up the middle and basically just be someone you can't move or get rid of

in other words, they should sign you

Bunkley has been solid at NT and John Jenkins was a beast of raw talent this preseason and looks like he might take Bunkleys job before end of year!

Here is last years grades, I only showed top 1/3 so you won't find FUA on the list, he was 83rd out of 85 graded! Keep on mind this is NT and DT together, so if it was just a list of NT, his rank would be even higher.

But hey great point, forget the guy that graded in top third of all DT and NTs and the raw talent that played great all preseason, take our cast off that was basically worst ranked of all DTs and that will make your line better! LMFAO! Moron! What's next genius, cut Brees and pick up Clausen!? Lol

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saints defense will be complete and utter poo

 

fact

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