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#31 Chrome_Seahawk

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:15 PM

Ginn has a great history against them too.

 

As a returner, yes, not so much as a receiver......

 

As far as a pick-6 off of Russell Wilson, the one in last year's game was the only pick-6 that he threw all year.....out of 10 total interceptions.



#32 Chrome_Seahawk

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:18 PM

That receiving corp is not a scary bunch. Limit Lynch and you limit the O.

I can see where you may see this on the surface, but their stats are low because we primarily run the ball and when we do throw, we have a tendency to spread the ball around.  All the receivers have been clutch and made big plays that led to big wins last year.  I actually LOVE our receiving core and wouldn't trade them (but can't wait for Percy to get healthy so that we can get even more creative with the playbook.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:59 PM

 

russell-wilson-pass-on-you-pass-on-them.

 

 

everybody did.............twice.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:24 PM

As a returner, yes, not so much as a receiver......

As far as a pick-6 off of Russell Wilson, the one in last year's game was the only pick-6 that he threw all year.....out of 10 total interceptions.


The comment you quoted followed several mentions of Ginn and the return game. That is the parallel I was drawing.

Also worth mentioning that Wilson attempted the least passes among starting QB's. That obviously limits your liability; but it also gets you called a game manager.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

I actually LOVE our receiving core and wouldn't trade them (but can't wait for Percy to get healthy so that we can get even more creative with the playbook.


This is where your credibility gets shot to shite. You don't have any WR's you couldn't easily upgrade. Spare us the super homer routine, we share a division with Saints who think Meachem is better than Rice. Jerry Rice, not the hit and miss guy on your roster from our part of the world.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:23 PM

Our front 4 will make it so easy for our LBs to get to him...Wilson will have a slump season...same as LUCK...RG III as gifted all around as he is...don't think he will last long in the NFL...Capdick samething....I believe our Secondary will be a shocking surprise this year...KEEP POUNDING!!!!



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 12:38 AM

The key to breaking Russel Wilson is to break his confidence. Throw him some curve balls. See how he reacts.

 

THAT'S funny!



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 12:39 AM

You can see Russell Wilson's feet on his driver's license.

 

So is that!



#39 Chrome_Seahawk

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:28 AM

This is where your credibility gets shot to shite. You don't have any WR's you couldn't easily. Spare us the super homer routine, we share a division with Saints who think Meachem is better than Rice. Jerry Rice, not the hit and miss guy on your roster from our part of the world.

 

I could care less what you think of my credibility - Sidney Rice has been phenomenal for us - consistently making first down catches while seemingly impossibly keeping his feet in bounds (has he put up huge TD numbers in his time here, no but I don't feel that is his fault).  Tate has a lot of Steve Smith like qualities in him, and despite being only 5'10" consistently times his jumps and high points balls for receptions - Doug Baldwin has also been clutch for us for the last two years.  Would I replace these guys with Jerry Rice, Steve Largent and Wes Welker??  Of course I would, but these guys do pretty much everything we ask of them - and could do more if our offense necessitated it.  I don't blame you for not being wowed by them - I just think they are a lot better than you give them credit for....and certainly better as a whole than the Carolina contingent.



#40 K-Hawk

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 02:38 AM

Last season when the Carolina Panthers squared off against the Seattle Seahawks, then rookie Russell Wilson was an unknown. Now, a year later, NFL Defensive Coordinators have an entire season's worth of game tape to study. This often times will be the biggest factor in the dreaded "sophomore slump".

 

How will the Panthers defensive staff contain Russell Wilson?

 

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Russell Wilson - Seahawks QB

 

The first thing you need to understand about Russell Wilson is that he is a game manager. This means he is not expected by his coaching staff to carry the load himself. Wilson threw the fewest passes of any starting QB in 2012 despite the Seahawks having the 5th ranked Time of Possession.The Seahawks rely on a strong running game and stout defense, a recipe that has always had success in the NFL.

 

While Wilson does have mobility and can gain yards on the ground, he really is not a running quarterback. At a height of 5'11, Russell uses his feet well in the pocket to find passing lanes. He is elusive enough to buy time and has the poise not to be easily flustered. Make no mistake, he is an impressive young QB.

 

Here are three things you will see on Sunday to contain Russell Wilson

 

1. On passing downs, a base 4 linemen will add pressure. I don't expect an increased number of blitzes against Seattle. The Panthers have the luxury of a front defensive four that can apply pressure on their own. Hardy, Lotulelei, and Johnson all require double teams at times. There just are not enough offensive lineman to compensate. This will force Seattle to keep a tight end or a running back in protection and free up a Panthers linebacker to help contain Wilson should he decide to run.

 

2. Go for interceptions. Last season WIlson gave up 6 points on a poor throw, and history could very well repeat itself. Look for preseason defensive MVP (I am still not sure what that means) Josh Norman to play very aggressively and jump routes. Norman got into more than one scuffle against the Seahawks last season, chances are he will again. Good times.

 

3. Keep him off the field. Last season during Chudzinski's horrible offensive experiments, the Panthers never found a rhythm. This year, Panthers new OC Mike Shula must be able to run the football and get first downs. Touchdowns would be nice, but at the very least string together consistent drives of 12 plays or more. I have low expectations of Shula, hopefully after this weekend I will have loftier goals.

 

First, sophomore slump: Won't happen. Show me a slump of any kind in Wilson's history.

Second, Wilson is not now and never has been a game manager. You are confusing 1. a scheme and 2. a coaching error with the characteristics of the QB. Why repeat first half 2012 misinterpretations in 2013?

Yes, the team is run first, but that is a philosophy, not a QB characteristic. Yes, the coaches held Wilson back a lot for half the season and some until Chicago, but Carroll acknowledged that was a mistake.

Third, have you heard how his teammates talk about him? Have you read any of the stories of how he walked into Wisconsin the #5 QB and was the starter and team captain within three weeks?

Have you read none of the stories of Wilson, as a third-string, third round rookie walked up to Carroll and told him he was there to be the starter and was good enough to be? Or how he started meetings, complete with reports on opponents prepared, with the receivers as the third-string QB?

 

He personally organized a two-week passing workout in the offseason in So Cal.

If you think Wilson is a game manager, you haven't learned much about him. Wilson can make every throw, could be a true option QB, is a complete QB. Where, exactly, is his weakness? This is why there will be no sophomore slump: He doesn't have any obvious or glaring weaknesses. The best you could do is have your linemen come in with pads high, but they wouldn't get very far that way, right?

Excellent QBs aren't stopped so much as the team gets stopped by a good game plan or superior team. The Bradys, Rodgers, Montanas of the NFL don't so much get beaten as they do lose sometimes. FYI? Wilson has a higher QB rating in the pocket than out, so good luck "containing" him. Kinda like tossing Brer Rabbit in the briar patch.

 



#41 K-Hawk

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 02:56 AM

If any team can limit Seattle, it's Rivera's defensive concepts. They showed last year that if they maintain their gap responsibilities and stay on their feet against the zone blocking, one cut running game they can hold the Seahawk's to under 20 points. With what should be a much better pass rush up the middle, the DEs need to make sure that they contain Wilson inside the pocket and make him throw rather than run. The LBs will be key to stopping critical 3rd downs, whether runs or passes. While the secondary will probably play mostly zone, they must limit the YAC and not give up the big play.

I believe that if they can play within themselves, we can contain Seattle. Last week against Pittsburgh, they came out too aggressive and were burned by misdirection, reverses and screens on the first series.

Play Smart...Hit Hard......WIN 20-17.

 

My guess is Carroll will come out running the ball and giving away the chance to go into the 2nd half with a lead, then blow away your tired and admittedly pedestrian secondary with a passing blitzkrieg in the 2nd half. Don't be surprised if they elect to kick if they win the toss.

Personally, I'd go after your secondary hard out of the gate and attack your greatest weakness, then beat you into submission with Beast Mode in the second half. Let those lineman chase Wilson around as he deliberately rolls out time after time, keeping the spy always occupied and your zone vulnerable.

I can't wait to see our 4WR sets vs. your secondary! Yup, keep him in the pocket. Please!

It will be interesting to see what we do to try to contain Cam.



#42 TheRed

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 02:57 AM

Good to know that Wilson has zero weaknesses and will be immune to any kind of second year struggles.

These guys are some serious homers. I can see now why they ban other fans over there so much.

#43 K-Hawk

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 03:08 AM

Our front 4 will make it so easy for our LBs to get to him...Wilson will have a slump season...same as LUCK...RG III as gifted all around as he is...don't think he will last long in the NFL...Capdick samething....I believe our Secondary will be a shocking surprise this year...KEEP POUNDING!!!!

 

So, let me get this straight: A QB who had better stats than, and 4x as many starts as, Cam in college, who was better in his rookie season than Cam in either Cam's first or second seasons, that QB ain't nothing to worry about?

I suggest you go look at some of the analyses of Wilson at Football Outsiders. His efficiency with the ball is astounding. That means he is both highly skilled delivering it and extremely intelligent in his decisions.
 

But apparently the QB who has outperformed Cam in college and the pros isn't worthy of being in Cam's presence.

 

:)



#44 OBXPantha

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

So, let me get this straight: A QB who had better stats than, and 4x as many starts as, Cam in college, who was better in his rookie season than Cam in either Cam's first or second seasons, that QB ain't nothing to worry about?

I suggest you go look at some of the analyses of Wilson at Football Outsiders. His efficiency with the ball is astounding. That means he is both highly skilled delivering it and extremely intelligent in his decisions.
 

But apparently the QB who has outperformed Cam in college and the pros isn't worthy of being in Cam's presence.

 

:)

Please explain this.... are you talking win/loss record?  Last time I checked Cam has done better his first 2 years than any other QB in a couple of categories.



#45 Chief Keek

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:25 PM

So, let me get this straight: A QB who had better stats than, and 4x as many starts as, Cam in college, who was better in his rookie season than Cam in either Cam's first or second seasons, that QB ain't nothing to worry about?

I suggest you go look at some of the analyses of Wilson at Football Outsiders. His efficiency with the ball is astounding. That means he is both highly skilled delivering it and extremely intelligent in his decisions.
 

But apparently the QB who has outperformed Cam in college and the pros isn't worthy of being in Cam's presence.

 

:)

 

Whooooaaaa whoa whoa there now you got to be trolling lol. As I recall Cam won a little trophy called the Heisman and won the National Title in one season at Auburn.

 

I thought that is the goal for most College Athletes, in fact that's the entire reason your QB went to Wisconsin, so he could try to do just that.

 

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