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#11 Growl

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:29 PM

I'm a blind homer and even I think that's a bit crazy.

http://www.footballo...voa-projections

 

Agreed, that's entirely too low.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:31 PM

How reliable are these stats in football? The sample sizes are so small. Baseball stats normally bear true because of the sheer size of the data pool. Football not so much IMO.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:34 PM

How reliable are these stats in football? The sample sizes are so small. Baseball stats normally bear true because of the sheer size of the data pool. Football not so much IMO.

 

Not sure, but we were supposedly top 10 in both offense and defense last year... it's just other random variables kind of screwed everything up for us.  A case of everything that could go wrong, well, pretty much went wrong.

 

I don't know jack poo about that DVOA stuff though.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:36 PM

Just off hand I think we should have beaten Seattle, KC, ATL, and CHI. We simply didn't have the defense we needed to hold up in the 4th when teams went to the air. We should be totally different this season.



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:37 PM

Simply put, we were an anomaly last season and anyone who watched all of our games know this. We damn sure should have won more than 7 games... I don't think I've ever seen a sports team be as consistently unlucky as we were.


Bad luck is where preparation and skill fail to meet. One or the other.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:42 PM

Are these the same guys who had us as like the #4 team last season? 

 

The talent/numbers are there as we all know...the luck/coaching/end game failure is what has held us back. Change a little of that around and that ranking could be justifiable. 



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:45 PM

Wow, incredible.

 

But many of us have felt the team has been underperforming given the level of overall team talent. It's now or never for this staff and more than a few vet players. 

 

 



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:46 PM

Huddle is on Super Bowl victory or bust mode and Im all in baby



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 10:52 PM

Mike Tanier, a former (current?) FO writer/contributor, released his NFC South predictions today. He has the Saints winning the division at 10-6 with the Panthers taking a WC spot...at 10-6:

 

 

 

http://www.sportsone...ticle/59430332/

 

Everyone needs to watch the video in that article, Tanier starts out seeming like he's taking a dig at Cam, but then explains that there's been way too much pressure put on him and he sees the signs that Cam is growing into the leader everyone thinks he can't be. Good vid.

 

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Football Outsiders Stat: Newton's yards-per-attempt, interception percentage and quarterback rating actually got better last year after his historic 2011 season. He also ran for more yards and more yards per carry. Yes, some other important indicators went down, but the "disastrous" sophomore slump only existed in fantasy football -- Newton's touchdown totals tailed off -- and in the minds of people who think that quarterbacks are responsible for everything that happens to a team.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:23 AM

Wow. 1. I'm surprised there is a football site that is purely objective and led by stats and facts not ratings and the narrative they want to push 2. There are people out there that have taken time to actually watch our games and know we aren't bad as everyone else is claiming. I for one am shocked


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