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Bill Polian on Shula

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Also, Shula's last season with Dilfer he went 11-5, so it seemed he could also win with that pooty QB (and Shaun King)

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Yeah, but it isn't like they just swapped out coordinators....

There was also a different HC, New and good receiving weapons..

 

So Shula's QB was or was not good enough to win with, or are we moving on from that excuse now?

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I thought Moose had the longest TD pass in a Superbowl. That soulful make the QB Jake. But Jake doesn't have a ring.

Lets be real. Gruden won that Superbowl because he was the coach of the Raiders the year before and knew what they were going to run before they did. He was the one that created that offense. Clausen could have won that game.The defense won that game once Gruden gave them the Oakland playbook.And he knew how to beat that defense.

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"Quit questioning Shula! I live in Charlotte and he's coached Cam up from a guy who had no idea how to line up and call an NFL play because of college offenses he played in and made him an NFL caliber signal caller.

Dungy told Polian letting Shula go was one if the biggest mistakes he ever made.

I know Shula and there is no reason to question him.

It defies logic for me for these questions to somehow pop up."

On NFL radio inresponse to a caller from Charlotte asking if he Shula is the right guy for Cam and the offense

OK lets give him some cred for getting Cam this far.  Considering we have no idea just exactly how bad it was it takes a little faith in what Bill says but I'm willing to give him a little.

 

The problem is this speaks to the chops of a quarterback coach and not an OC.

 

It doesn't mean he will fail necessarily but it doesn't lend credence to him having the ability to call a decent game either.  We have a shabby history and a strange (at the time) promotion to go off of and that's it.

 

I do like his familiarity with Cam coming from his previous role and being there from the beginning especially considering how unique our guy is compared to what we have always run and experienced n franchise history.  I give the situation big points in that respect.

 

That is a huge positive.  One not every hybrid signal caller in the league actually has the advantage of.  Simultaneously though, I do have concerns (not sure if legitimate or not) about his ability and knowledge of our run game.  Or any run game for that matter.  We are built to have a great one.  we NEED to have an above average one.  He being a QB guy makes me think he may lean away from that balance we so desperately need just enough to evade the magic.  

 

In the end Riv liked him for it.  Gett is at minimum comfortable enough not to make waves right away in spite of what are glaring issues (his lack of success and the above mentioned).  I am hanging on to those two things right now and I am going into Sunday knowing (convincing myself was the key) that we will see more of the Cam show early on than they really want to sustain us long term.  Oline being what it is (needing to gel not so much the lousy, destined for failure sentiment) and desperately needing to get off to a good start may force more designed runs and roll outs.  As long as that approach tempers as the run game progresses behind the gelling oline (it will happen, it will happen) then my confidence is going to be bolstered.

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Yes we all remember how Dilfer put the Ravens on his shoulders and carried them to a Super Bowl before being replaced the next season by Elvis Grbac who also won 10 games for them

 

Nope, just saying he was good enough to win with, something you say he wasn't.

 

Facts are facts.

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So Shula's QB was or was not good enough to win with, or are we moving on from that excuse now?

Shula won in Tampa with him....

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Nope, just saying he was good enough to win with, something you say he wasn't.

Facts are facts.

Shula's last year with him and Shaun King they went 11-5.

I don't really care I just like to see you get all angry about it because you had to live in Tampa with a bunch of retirees and strippers.

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