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#31 Vampire the buffet slayer

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:03 PM

I sincerely doubt you'd accept anything that doesn't fit your agenda.




Mr Scot, this guy talks out of both sides of his mouth.

#32 Fox007

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:24 PM

What the fug are you talking about? Like, sometimes I wonder if people are only fans of Cam, and not the Panthers. Rivera hasn't blamed Cam not once, hell, he put the blame on Shula.

 

A lot of these guys ARE only fans of Cam...just take a gander at the join dates..it's not a coincidence that a lot of the Cam only posters joined right as we drafted him or shortly after.

 

Course they "have always been fans" and just so happened to join at that time...even though this forum has been around for a pretty long time.



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:31 PM

A lot of these guys ARE only fans of Cam...just take a gander at the join dates..it's not a coincidence that a lot of the Cam only posters joined right as we drafted him or shortly after.

Course they "have always been fans" and just so happened to join at that time...even though this forum has been around for a pretty long time.

If your referring to me you can say so. Being on the huddle doesn't make you a fan and it sure as hell isn't an indication on when you became a fan.

You think posting on here makes me, you, or anyone else a fan. Hell most of the damn huddle has never been to BOA let alone Ericsson so you can miss me with that poo.

#34 Fox007

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:36 PM

If your referring to me you can say so. Being on the huddle doesn't make you a fan and it sure as hell isn't an indication on when you became a fan.

You think posting on here makes me, you, or anyone else a fan. Hell most of the damn huddle has never been to BOA let alone Ericsson so you can miss me with that poo.

 

I wasn't referring to anyone in specific but these things have a way of exposing themselves...sort of like...the way you sound offended for some reason...



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:42 PM

I wasn't referring to anyone in specific but these things have a way of exposing themselves...sort of like...the way you sound offended for some reason...


I am offended because I created the thread, a thread defending Cam so you think that makes me a "Camfan" and not a panther fan. When you've spent the time, energy, and money I have on this team it's offensive.

To be embarrassingly honest I was against the Cam pick I wanted AJ green for Jimmy, but the moment I knew we were committed to Cam I backed him 100% and will do so as long as he wears the black and blue

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:47 PM

I am offended because I created the thread, a thread defending Cam so you think that makes me a "Camfan" and not a panther fan. When you've spent the time, energy, and money I have on this team it's offensive.

To be embarrassingly honest I was against the Cam pick I wanted AJ green for Jimmy, but the moment I knew we were committed to Cam I backed him 100% and will do so as long as he wears the black and blue

 

You sound like a fine fan, if it doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you. But Camfans do exist here...

 

AJ Green is fine as a player(and hes from where I'm from) but Cam was the correct choice...could you imagine if we had Gabbert...OMFG



#37 raleigh-panther

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:48 PM

Saints 2nd Game of the 2012 season.


Try again.


Score one for u. They beat team that didn't have its HC

Is that enough?. If it is stick to the arguments.

My hat is off to Rayzor. He called this. I should have listened.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:53 PM

You sound like a fine fan, if it doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you. But Camfans do exist here...

AJ Green is fine as a player(and hes from where I'm from) but Cam was the correct choice...could you imagine if we had Gabbert...OMFG


Lol I remember the sports illustrated article about him when he was a backup at Missouri talked about how he was the back up to Chase but was the one who would be a great nfl qb.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 07:59 PM

Lol I remember the sports illustrated article about him when he was a backup at Missouri talked about how he was the back up to Chase but was the one who would be a great nfl qb.

 

Then again....if we had drafted AJ Green to use with Jimmy...we probably would have been in position to get Luck...

 

That question would be would you rather have Green/Luck or Cam?



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 08:02 PM

Then again....if we had drafted AJ Green to use with Jimmy...we probably would have been in position to get Luck...

That question would be would you rather have Green/Luck or Cam?


Cam is my qb but Luck/Green sounds damn good

#41 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 08:52 PM

It's simple OP, Rivera is a sheep. No balls.



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:06 PM

Lets see. When did Rivera take blame for Cam. How about Sheba Cam said that he and Shula were going to open up the offense. Did he mention that Cam was the one who refused to throw downfield? No he didn't but Cam did. Lets see did he blame Newton for fumbling aftergetting the first down against Atlanta? No he lunged on 4 th and 1 and took all the blame. He has always taken all the blame and defended his players. Did he call out Williams for fumbling? No he said we fumbled not a specific player. Go back and look at some of the interviews with you supposed open mind. You will find that Ri era always takes responsibility and protect the players even when they make boneheaded plays.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:07 PM

It has nothing to do with the huddle it has to do with the thrashing Cam takes from everyone outside of Panther land and let's be honest our own fan base. Rivera deflects blame and that allows open season on Cam

IMO, the endless attack on Cam's image and susequent undermining of his performance is being orchestrated by a bunch of bitter egomaniacs at ESPN/NLFL, who seem to enjoy power triping because they can. Sadly, the many lower level, extremely lazy, so called reporters are more than happy to regurgitate whatever those ego driven Idiots have to say because they are to lazy to think for themselve and to much of a bunch of cowards to buck the system they are part of. So many, some very much part of the Panther family, simply follow along, so they can look like they're "smart." .

 

I remembered watching NFLN during the 2011 draft and was sick to my stomach at how they were trashing Cam in an attempt to discourage teams from taking him at number one. They knew Blane Gabbert was never the better QB but he was their answer that season to Luck after he choose to stay in college instead of joining the 2011 Draft. 

 

The same night Cam was drafted, one of the talking heads on NFLN asked if the scutinizing was going to end with Cam being drafted at number one. The other guy point blank said NO! They always had a rationalized excuse for their endless attack on Cam but have yet to scrutinize any of the other QBs like they are doing with him.

 

But let's be honest, they know there is a segment of this society that are more than happy to hate on Cam simply because. There is also a segment who will take whatever these so called sports experts say and use it to get attention for themselves. Then, there is another segment who are nothing but a bunch of cowards. They sit there blindly regurgitating ever negative thing they hear because it's safer to follow and be accepted than it is to go against the grain. Especially if it isn't benefiting them to go against the grain. 

 

The truth is, some folks love to hate on others and will openingly, or pretend not to be doing so, if given the chance. They are given the chance with Cam.



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:22 PM

To the OP. 

 

I been saying this for the last several years. "Rivera don't back or defend Cam in anything". He just let's the media run away with criticism, even when his decision making (or lack of it) is the cause of it. For example, agreeing with Chud to expand the Read Option and reduce 2 TE sets in 2012, and not allowing Cam to go for over 4000 yards again the last several games (and what it would mean to his PR), etc. 

 

He's clueless on so many levels. 



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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:28 PM

To the OP. 
 
I been saying this for the last several years. "Rivera don't back or defend Cam in anything". He just let's the media run away with criticism, even when his decision making (or lack of it) is the cause of it. For example, agreeing with Chud to expand the Read Option and reduce 2 TE sets in 2012, and not allowing Cam to go for over 4000 yards again the last several games (and what it would mean to his PR), etc. 
 
He's clueless on so many levels.

There are many good candidates today but that might be a candidate for stupidest post of the day.



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