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#106 PhillyB

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:57 PM

You black? You white? How the hell ima know you? Unless you're that loud ass fat white dude in the EUC with brown hair I won't be able to define you.

 

 

yeah that's me. go up to that guy and nut check him, i mean me, we'll both get a laugh out of it

 

คุณพูดภาษาไทย? or ຫຼືເວົ້າພາສາລາວ?



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:03 PM

yeah that's me. go up to that guy and nut check him, i mean me, we'll both get a laugh out of it

คุณพูดภาษาไทย? or ຫຼືເວົ້າພາສາລາວ?


I'm just kidding dude. That was a made up description. I rarely attend the EUC.

And that's def not Hmong writings. That's Thai and I def don't have a clue of how to read it. Not sure why you posted it up but okay.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:07 PM

I'm just kidding dude. That was a made up description. I rarely attend the EUC.

And that's def not Hmong writings. That's Thai and I def don't have a clue of how to read it. Not sure why you posted it up but okay.


tons of Hmong speak Thai or Lao, which is why I asked questions in both scripts... just curious. i haven't spoken Thai with anyone in a couple years and my Lao has never been much more than functional so I'm always on the lookout for speakers

does Hmong have a native script even?

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

tons of Hmong speak Thai or Lao, which is why I asked questions in both scripts... just curious. i haven't spoken Thai with anyone in a couple years and my Lao has never been much more than functional so I'm always on the lookout for speakers

does Hmong have a native script even?


Only Hmongs you'll find today who can speak or read Thai/Laos are older adults who are 40+ in ages.
If you can find a 20 or even a 35 yrs older who can speak Thai/Laos, you're very very lucky.

If you have as much Hmong friends as you say you do, you'd know that we use the English alphabets. We have no script.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

Bad play by Cam but there is too much pressure on Cam to get the ball to smitty is one notion this team needs to get rid of. It has fuged us consistently through Smitty's later years. Spread the ball out.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:57 PM

Only Hmongs you'll find today who can speak or read Thai/Laos are older adults who are 40+ in ages.
If you can find a 20 or even a 35 yrs older who can speak Thai/Laos, you're very very lucky.

If you have as much Hmong friends as you say you do, you'd know that we use the English alphabets. We have no script.

 

only?

 

that's an awfully broad brush you're painting with. a huge number of hmong that are here today came over as refugees post-pathet lao, which coincides with that age range, but a lot of their children speak it at home as well, even if they're not fluent or well-practiced.

 

i don't hang out with any of them on a regular basis and we've never really discussed the language, but i couldn't remember if there was a script or if it was just phonetically translated to the roman alphabet; regionally there's a laotian script, a thai script, burmese, and khmer, but it'd make sense that either of the first two could be used to phonetically transcribe the hmong language.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:45 PM

I went to the coaches tape to look at this... here's what Cam saw just before he decided to throw to Smitty: 

 

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Bennett had beaten Bell (one of many times this day) and meanwhile Sherman had stumbled a little trying to trail Smitty.... Cam threw the ball a little behind Smitty with Bennett bearing down on him and Sherman recovered and made a hell of a play on the ball. 

 

You can see from this pic a few frames later that Cam threw this ball with Bennett literally at his feet. He had to sidearm it to get around Bell and he couldn't step into the throw which caused it to sail and gave Sherman an opportunity to make a play on it.

 

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With Bennett bearing down on him like this, Cam wouldn't have had time to reset his feet and make a throw to the left side of the field... he saw that Smitty had Sherman beat and Bennett was getting ready to eat his lunch, so he made the best throw he could under the circumstances. 

 

 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:55 PM

I went to the coaches tape to look at this... here's what Cam saw just before he decided to throw to Smitty: 

 

ScreenHunter_118Sep110040_zpsb6f48335.jp

 

Bennett had beaten Bell (one of many times this day) and meanwhile Sherman had stumbled a little trying to trail Smitty.... Cam threw the ball a little behind Smitty with Bennett bearing down on him and Sherman recovered and made a hell of a play on the ball. 

 

Exactly.

 

But no, Cam was too conservative. "He didn't get enough passing yards, wtf man!"

 

The football experts here think Cam definitely should have been throwing down field all day on the best secondary in the NFL. I'm sure these fans totally would have been understanding if Seattle picked him off too, am I right?



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:03 AM

Exactly.

 

But no, Cam was too conservative. "He didn't get enough passing yards, wtf man!"

 

The football experts here think Cam definitely should have been throwing down field all day on the best secondary in the NFL. I'm sure these fans totally would have been understanding if Seattle picked him off too, am I right?

 

Last year we all sat around and complained about Cam not going through his progressions and taking what the defense was giving him instead of looking to hit a homerun on every play... Cam has learned to go through his progressions and take what the defense is giving him and now folks are bitching about that, LOL. 

 

Seattle was playing deep zone coverage because they wanted to force Cam to beat them with short throws... which Cam did for most of the game.

 

If Cam had attempted deep throws into the coverage Seattle was using with the quality of DB's they have it would have been an INT fest. I can promise you that Seattle was hoping Cam would get frustrated and start trying to force some deep throws, so credit to Cam for staying patient and taking what they were giving him and/or finding open receivers when the pocket was collapsing all around him (which was happening for most of the game). 



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:31 AM

only?

that's an awfully broad brush you're painting with. a huge number of hmong that are here today came over as refugees post-pathet lao, which coincides with that age range, but a lot of their children speak it at home as well, even if they're not fluent or well-practiced.

i don't hang out with any of them on a regular basis and we've never really discussed the language, but i couldn't remember if there was a script or if it was just phonetically translated to the roman alphabet; regionally there's a laotian script, a thai script, burmese, and khmer, but it'd make sense that either of the first two could be used to phonetically transcribe the hmong language.

Trust me. The Hmong Americans (born in the U.S.) today in the range of new born to the early 30s doesn't know how to speak, comprehend, or write in Thai/Laos. I'm not sure where you are getting your info from, but we do not communicate the Thai/Laos languages at home. You are either speculating wrong assumptions or someone have been lying to you. I'm assuming you are making your own assumptions only. We grew up speaking english and Hmong, and learning Spanish through school. We the Hmongs are a culture who likes to acclimate to the environment we live in. We take the new step toward the future. We see things of the past as "old fashion". We are open minded people who even though are religious are up to modern beliefs. There's no need for us to learn a language or writing that isn't ours (Thai/Laos) especially when we have no need for it being Americans.

But, around 2003-2004 there have been the new group of Hmong refugees who immigrated to the U.S. Some came here, most went to Cali, and majority went to Minnesota and Wisconsin. They are still learning the English language and are not fluent yet, but are making progress. If you consider them, then they are fluent in Thai and Laos. But if you want to based solely on the Hmongs who were born in the U.S. then I guarantee you that you'll have a difficult time finding one who can communicate the Thai and Laos languages.

The Hmong have no script. The only thing we have in common to the other ethnicity is that we are also Asian. We doesnt share any bond other than similarities in foods to them. Burmese and Khmer are imo even further out than the Thai, Laos, and Viet to us. Like I said we uses the English alphabets very similar to the Spanish writing. Myself along with many other young Hmongs cannot read or write in Hmong. I can speak it fluently but you'd be surprised to know how little I can read and write in Hmong. I mean really I have zero ability to perform reading or writing in Hmong. Spanish is a lot easier for me to read/write than my own language.

You might have already know this but the Hmong doesn't have a country to call as ours own. We live within Thailand, Vietnam, and Laos. The Thai, Viet, and Laos treated us badly in the past that's why we helped the U.S. during the Vietnam War. We have no relationship with any of them or their languages. Thai, Laos, and Viet languages are comparable to the English language. You live there so you learn it to communicate only. It's not a part of us.

You might have not noticed this, but there is a small group of the the Hmong who are currently living in China. Our history dates back to a time where the Hmong used to live in China. China used to be our home. Our real home. The Chinese forced us out so many migrated to Thai, Laos, and Vietnam. Some decides to stay in China. They are Hmong, but they have a unique dialect and accent to their language. Look up the "Miao". They are Hmong whom are left in China.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:46 AM

Why is Cam 10-11 yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 2? Sure makes it look a lot further away.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:50 AM

I don't want to sound ignorant or racist and I apologize in advance if I come across as both for this question, but what the fug is a Hmong?

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:52 AM

I don't want to sound ignorant or racist and I apologize in advance if I come across as both for this question, but what the fug is a Hmong?


I'm sorry. I didn't want to use this thread for this conversation but I'm just replying back to Phillyb.

Anyway, use the Google search engine to see what the fug the Hmong are. ;)

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:00 AM

I'm sorry. I didn't want to use this thread for this conversation but I'm just replying back to Phillyb.

Anyway, use the Google search engine to see what the fug the Hmong are. ;)


My bad. I figured if someone was of a certain ethnicity they might be able to explain it to me better than google could. I'll go look it up.



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