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#71 Jrock88

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 04:54 PM

I remember this play it was a bad one for cam, he stared down smitty the whole time I think,,,, ginn was open , its a timing route and it has to be there when he turns around, 

 

where the defenders are in this pic is irrelevant, as the ball would already be out of cams hands ,ideally.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:15 PM


Cam passed 70%, not enough yards, and we lost.

 

I'm not a huge fan of "statistics", but rather on production. Stats don't lie, but it doesnt always tell everything.

 

We can talked all day about Cam's incredible passing percentage (70%), but he didn't make enough plays Sunday to win us the game. If we just wanted to look at stats wise, Matt Schaub has a better career passing completion of 64.5% compared to the 3x Super Bowl Champion QB Tom Brady's 63.7%. Does that make Schaub a better and more accurate passer than Brady? No way. We cant tell if a QB is completing his passes by making easy dump offs/check downs to the RBs or whatever by just reading statistics.

 

At the end of the day, it all comes down to who makes bigger plays to help his team win games. I am going to make the Newton/Kaepernick comparison all day long, bc those two are so much similar as a QB. The only differences is Kaepernick is a bigger threat as a game changer and a better pocket presence than Cam as of right now. Carolina's fans can cry and sulk all they want about Kaepernick thriving bc of Harbaugh compared to Cam with Rivera's. Fans need to face the reality that Kaep is a much better QB than Cam atm. The only place you'll find people arguing that Cam is better than Kaep is in the Carolinas.

 

Last Sunday, we probably played a tougher Defense with Seattle than Kaep with GB, but that doesnt mean poo. Kaep stand tall in the pocket and picked that GB defense apart for 400+ yards and 3 tds like a veteran QB who have done it for years. Cam on the other hand looked like he was forced to be "one dimensional" without the read-option.
 

I dont care about how many yards Cam throw for, run for, or with a 120% passer rating. If he doesnt make enough winning plays for us with his arm rather than his legs this year, we won't see the Playoffs anytime soon.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:22 PM

I'm not a huge fan of "statistics", but rather on production. Stats don't lie, but it doesnt always tell everything.

 

We can talked all day about Cam's incredible passing percentage (70%), but he didn't make enough plays Sunday to win us the game. If we just wanted to look at stats wise, Matt Schaub has a better career passing completion of 64.5% compared to the 3x Super Bowl Champion QB Tom Brady's 63.7%. Does that make Schaub a better and more accurate passer than Brady? No way. We cant tell if a QB is completing his passes by making easy dump offs/check downs to the RBs or whatever by just reading statistics.

 

At the end of the day, it all comes down to who makes bigger plays to help his team win games. I am going to make the Newton/Kaepernick comparison all day long, bc those two are so much similar as a QB. The only differences is Kaepernick is a bigger threat as a game changer and a better pocket presence than Cam as of right now. Carolina's fans can cry and sulk all they want about Kaepernick thriving bc of Harbaugh compared to Cam with Rivera's. Fans need to face the reality that Kaep is a much better QB than Cam atm. The only place you'll find people arguing that Cam is better than Kaep is in the Carolinas.

 

Last Sunday, we probably played a tougher Defense with Seattle than Kaep with GB, but that doesnt mean poo. Kaep stand tall in the pocket and picked that GB defense apart for 400+ yards and 3 tds like a veteran QB who have done it for years. Cam on the other hand looked like he was forced to be "one dimensional" without the read-option.
 

I dont care if Cam throws for 500 yards. If he doesnt make enough winning plays for us this year, we won't see the Playoffs anytime soon.

This is a lot of words that really don't say anything.

Kaep and Cam are similar, except that Cam is bigger, stronger, faster, and has higher upside.

You do this in your posts a ton and I'm still hoping you learn better sometime, see here:

 

Carolina's fans can cry and sulk all they want about Kaepernick thriving bc of Harbaugh compared to Cam with Rivera's. Fans need to face the reality that Kaep is a much better QB than Cam atm.

 

So stating facts is considered "Sulking and Crying" ?

Harbs is saved Alex Smith, he groomed Kaep, the San Fran OLine's BACKUPS are likely better than half of our OLine, Kaep has better playcalling, better Defense and one could argue better WRs/TE.

 

Please start doing some research before spewing out opinions based on your feels.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

Yeah let's compare Kaepernick on arguably the best team in the NFL right now from top to bottom on both sides of the ball with one of the best coaches in the league to Cam, a makeshift o line, this receiver core, and Ron Rivera....

 

The sad thing about Chuck is, he is 100% serious with his statements. It's mind boggling.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

I love Kaep. I think he is awesome. I also praised RG3 last season. I love Russell Wilson and think he is a special guy.

The only two guys I don't gush praise on yet is Luck and Dalton.

But Cam had a good game and we played all in all a good game Sunday. We did enough to win but we didn't. That sucks and is getting old to lose these games, but it is still true.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

This is a lot of words that really don't say anything.

Kaep and Cam are similar, except that Cam is bigger, stronger, faster, and has higher upside.

You do this in your posts a ton and I'm still hoping you learn better sometime, see here:

So stating facts is considered "Sulking and Crying" ?

Harbs is saved Alex Smith, he groomed Kaep, the San Fran OLine's BACKUPS are likely better than half of our OLine, Kaep has better playcalling, better Defense and one could argue better WRs/TE.

 

Please start doing some research before spewing out opinions based on your feels.

 

Bc imo my "feels" are correct. If you guys will just quit being homers and blinding yourself with all these records Cam broke instead of facing the fact that Cam cant win under pressures then yall see the truths. Go ask another fan base other than here, and see what they think of Cam and what he lacks as a QB. Cam have not win a big time game here in a Carolina uniform other than beating a 5th round rookie QB and the Houston Texans without their DC (Phillips) in 2011.

 

If Cam's upside is higher, how come he hasnt reach that point yet after two years? Kaep was a much rawer QB than Cam coming out and he played under a full time read-option system at Nevada compared to Cam at Auburn. Let's quit assuming that Cam has the higher upside. Kaep does and he has shown that at this point in time, he is a greater passer than Cam.

 

My prediction is, if Cam doesn't manage to throw for at least "24 TD" passes this season, we're all going to be watching the Playoffs without the Carolina Panthers again. Cam ran for 22 totals TDs his first two seasons and he managed to win us 13 games. Assuming that we do go with less of the read-option throughout this season, I would assume it'd be pretty tough for Cam to come close to what he had last season (8 rushing tds). If that passing td category doesnt increase drastically for Cam, we wont have nothing to cheer for after week 17.

 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:48 PM

Im going to end up buying all 22 I know it :(

Yea, that play looks completely different from the end zone cam.

 

I got the impression that this play is designed to go to 89 and he is actually staring down the MLB, He locks onto smith after he passes behind #54. The throw is behind Smith and that is why it's a near pick, plain and simple to me..



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

Yeah let's compare Kaepernick on arguably the best team in the NFL right now from top to bottom on both sides of the ball with one of the best coaches in the league to Cam, a makeshift o line, this receiver core, and Ron Rivera....

 

The sad thing about Chuck is, he is 100% serious with his statements. It's mind boggling.

 

The sad thing about TheRed is, he is still 100% sucking onto my balls. It's mind boggling. Get off my balls.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:04 PM

Of course all you can respond with is middle school level insults.

Not everyone has to agree with your uninformed "opinions" Chuck.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:16 PM

Of course all you can respond with is middle school level insults.

Not everyone has to agree with your uninformed "opinions" Chuck.

 

Get lost Red. I'm sick and tired of you supposedly "joking" around, "attacking" me, mentioning my names, etc. every single other day bc you can't let go of a disagreement we had in the past. Quit holding a damn GRUDGE and leave me the fug alone. Grow the hell up. Ive told you this on more than one occasion already. I'm entitled to my own "opinions" whether you like it or not. No one is right and no one is wrong. You dont like it, move along. It's a fuggn talking forum dude! A fuggn "forum", so dont make it a life for u. I come on here to read updates of the team and post my opinions just like everyone else. You dont have to mention/attack my name in every one of your post bc your still BITTER about the past.

 

Grow the hell up Red! This is as nice as I can tell you. This place have become a "JOKE" the last couple of years bc we have mods/admins who cant take control of this place, and people who wants to be assholes like you around here.

 

Talk about "FOOTBALL" and quit insulting others' opinions!!! I dont insult your intelligence, so dont insult mines.





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