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what is this teams identity? do we have one?

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Like when Mike Singletary kept blaming his 49ers team then along comes a guy name Jim and suddenly the 49ers don't suck anymore. Talented teams don't win games. Everyone in the nfl is talented. Coaching is the difference.

Defensive minded coach played a soft ass zone at the end of the game and couldn't get the ball back


Coaching isn't the problem in Jacksonville.

Broncos are not scary bc of Fox. You just hope the coach can stay out of Peyton's way.

Jimmy and the Joes matter in games. Now, a horrible coach impacts a team....yes. Big picture, players have the greater impact IMO.

Rivera has put this time in position to win....and some really dumb stuff has happened. RR isn't out coached every loss

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Excuses, it seems to be what the RR era ia all about.

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Coaching isn't the problem in Jacksonville.

Broncos are not scary bc of Fox. You just hope the coach can stay out of Peyton's way.

Jimmy and the Joes matter in games. Now, a horrible coach impacts a team....yes. Big picture, players have the greater impact IMO.

Rivera has put this time in position to win....and some really dumb stuff has happened. RR isn't out coached every loss


Peyton is all time Great and Gabbert is all time bad.

You can't tell me you can't win with Cam. The guy won a national Championship on a team with no future NFl stars outside of himself.

Ron is a damn good defensive coordinator and that's all he will ever be. He doesn't know how to be a head coach he's admitted it himself. Why we employed him is beyond me.

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Rivera's teams identities at this point can be defined in two words

1. Soft
2. Undisciplined

The defense may be able to fix the soft part, but that is to be seen. Their performance after the fumble certainly didn't do them any favors.

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Peyton is all time Great and Gabbert is all time bad.

You can't tell me you can't win with Cam. The guy won a national Championship on a team with no future NFl stars outside of himself.

Ron is a damn good defensive coordinator and that's all he will ever be. He doesn't know how to be a head coach he's admitted it himself. Why we employed him is beyond me.

 

Nick Fairly is pretty good for the Lions and was a beast in that Game you are referencing...

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disappointing?

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Stingy Defense

"take what they give you" offense


It always comes back to this for us no matter who's coaching. This has got to be JR's directive. This is the type of team he wants.

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It always comes back to this for us no matter who's coaching. This has got to be JR's directive. This is the type of team he wants.

 

it seems that way. i hope to god it's just residual philosophy that trickled down from jerry to hurney and on down the ranks that'll disappear as gettleman makes actual professional football decisions.

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Our identity?

 

Opie from Family Guy.

 

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Team's Identity: Losing is acceptable and Rivera is never to be blame for. Only the players are.

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smash, kill, destroy on defense.

 

on offense....don't screw up....even though we have the most dynamic QB in the league, the new prototype who has had the most successful first two years of any QB ever...king of the big plays and we either pigeonhole him into a game manager role or so damage his confidence that all he's concerned with is not making a mistake. either way...meh. we better see something different next week or plan on yet another non-winning season full of excuses.

I agree.

 

I like the ever improving defense. But that shouldn't limit our potential on offense though. 

 

I would like to use our offense like Dungy used to do in Indianapolis. Play aggressively on offense, and try to score 2 quick touchdowns. 

 

Once you have an 8+ point lead, you bring out the pass rushing onslaught, and 'pin your ears back' and force the pass, trying to force mistakes and turnovers.

 

Our defense is well suited for this task if we can get our offense rolling. The major issue that I see is that Carolina plays well between the 20s, but when they get into the redzone they are not very effective unless they use Cam's legs, which will eventually get him hurt ans should be avoided.  

 

Another quality WR to allow Smith to move over into the slot and #2 permanently is what is lacking. Still. I am interested to see what Ginn can come up with this week though. He is the most exciting FA prospect at WR since Keyshawn.  

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If you ask me, this season we are becoming a fierce defensive team. You can see it on game day and the pundits can see it. It is a reflection of our head coach. Cam is exciting to watch and like most football fans, enjoy offense more than defense but now you can see the way the team is set up. A defensive minded coach trusts his defense to win him the games rather than the offense hence punting on 4th and short. Ron just needs to balance it a little and we'll be fine.

 

Internally, I think the players love playing at CAR. Players are comfortable with the HC and the owner who were former players and I think somewhere they got a bit lax. It's a good thing we now have G-man who does not seem to "care" too much and makes it strictly business.

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Our identity?  Play hard for 60 minutes and keep pounding.  We are a tough out  for most teams whether we win or lose.

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. This x100. Gettleman is giving Ron and staff a fair shot at winning, that being said, a new GM is gonna want to bring his own guy in sooner rather than later. Perry Fewell is a guy that comes to mind.

 

my in-laws who are lifelong Giants fans think Perry Fewell is garbage... I trust their opinion. Plus I've seen the Giants defense get torched a fair amount of times during the Fewell era. Not the guy to lead us anywhere. If you want Fewell just stay the course with Sheep Rivera. At least Rivera knows the roster. Fewell will never be a HC in the NFL.

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To answer the OP, when I watched us week one the identity I saw was a stout front seven that can be amongst the best in football this year. They're not going to give up a lot of points or big running game performances. We are better on that side of the ball and its not close.

 

That defense will win us games.

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I only ask for a few things here.

Move Cam out of the pocket more. Especially on 3rd and short.
Take smart shots down field. If anything if we are at least at our 40 go deep away from the top DB.

Cash in on screens more.

Don't be afraid to go no huddle after a long play for yardage. Get the other team on their heels. Make them adjust or get tired or burn a time out.

Understand the impact of solid special teams.

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perpetually underachieving always "on the cusp of greatness" but can never quite get there small market everyone thinks we're offbeat football club whose fanbase is mostly composed of misfit fans that overrate the product on the field, no matter how bad we fuck up or how amateur we really are. kinda reminds me of...

 

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Well if you go by what the fans post it is "doom and gloom".

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I think our identity is just play a close game and then lose it in a stupid way.

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my in-laws who are lifelong Giants fans think Perry Fewell is garbage... I trust their opinion. Plus I've seen the Giants defense get torched a fair amount of times during the Fewell era. Not the guy to lead us anywhere. If you want Fewell just stay the course with Sheep Rivera. At least Rivera knows the roster. Fewell will never be a HC in the NFL.

 

Not saying i want him, just saying he's got the Gettleman connection. I want Mike Zimmer anyway.

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