Jump to content


Photo
* - - - - 1 votes

According to FootballOutsiders, Panthers Offense 9th Best in Week 1


  • Please log in to reply
94 replies to this topic

#11 CPcavedweller

CPcavedweller

    Instigator

  • Joined: 19-September 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 2,787
  • Reputation: 798
  • LocationCary, NC
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:26 AM

Contrary to a lot of opinions over the past couple of days. I thought our offense did really well, our defense did well but we allowed a hell of a lot of yards. Probably due to our horrible secondary.


Or the fact Wilson sold his soul to complete that ridiculous pass getting nailed and for Josh Thomas being deaf and blind.

#12 rscott94

rscott94

    Junior Member

  • Joined: 01-January 11
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 2,056
  • Reputation: 628
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:29 AM

Contrary to a lot of opinions over the past couple of days. I thought our offense did really well, our defense did well but we allowed a hell of a lot of yards. Probably due to our horrible secondary.

Secondary is completely horrible... The starting CB's are though.

 

Chris Gamble we miss you!!!!

Just imagine this...

CB: Gamble

NB: Moore/Thomas/Munnerlyn

SS: Mikell

FS: Godfrey

CB: Norman



#13 Marguide

Marguide

    South of the Border

  • Joined: 13-May 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,748
  • Reputation: 2,344
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:30 AM

And just to put a cherry on top of this statistical sundae, their DAVE ranking suggests we will end the year as the 6th best team in the league.

 

I'm just the messenger. Don't shoot.



#14 PantherFan52

PantherFan52

    The Man

  • Joined: 24-April 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,410
  • Reputation: 31
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 02:43 AM

I get it, but simply looking at stats is just ridiculous when evaluating the game of football. Evaluations like this don't make much sense to me. 



#15 teeray

teeray

    THE SWAGNIFICENT

  • Joined: 10-January 11
  • posts: 16,896
  • Reputation: 8,791
SUPPORTER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:00 AM

Not surprised.  Especially about our offense.

 

I really am not after breaking down some of the game stats myself.

 

You guys should listen to poppa teeray  :cool:



#16 AceBoogie

AceBoogie

    LiveStrong

  • Joined: 22-September 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,441
  • Reputation: 3,578
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:54 AM

I'm on record in saying in a game like that the offense did its job up until that fumble. Even with that fumble an elite defense would have forced Seattle to punt and give the offense back the ball with good field position.

Before someone says the defense was tired I call bullshit. Teams built around defense need to find a way to get off the field that's an excuse.

#17 rayzor

rayzor

    shula is who i thought he was.

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • posts: -28,898
  • Reputation: 7,795
Moderators

Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:14 AM

have i landed in some magical fairy turd land where points and winning don't matter?

 

we only scored seven and we lost. yay. everything is awesome.



#18 CRA

CRA

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • posts: 27,123
  • Reputation: 5,285
Moderators

Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:22 AM

have i landed in some magical fairy turd land where points and winning don't matter?

we only scored seven and we lost. yay. everything is awesome.


We could of had more points and been worse offensively....

Could of had more possessions and managed more points.... Yet been worse.

#19 AceBoogie

AceBoogie

    LiveStrong

  • Joined: 22-September 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 5,441
  • Reputation: 3,578
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:23 AM

have i landed in some magical fairy turd land where points and winning don't matter?

we only scored seven and we lost. yay. everything is awesome.


If the defense doesn't give up the lead we win correct? Doesn't matter if its 7-6 or 35-34 a defensive minded coach such as Ron will tell you the same. Would be a different story if they got the ball back for the O but they couldn't just like last year against Seattle, Bears, Falcons, and Bucs.

That's what a Rivera defense is all about play good D for 3 1/2 quarters but we all know if the opposing team has the ball at the end of the game we lose.

#20 d-dave

d-dave

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPip
  • posts: 723
  • Reputation: 169
HUDDLER

Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:23 AM

I respect the insanely complicated amount of work that goes into their analysis of games.  It's really insane (to me at least, and I'm math neutral!).

 

BUT!  While the numbers of per play average, or yards per rush, or completion percentage, or 3rd down conversion, may look great (terrible sentence structure, I'm tired); you can not make up for the fact that we didn't make the plays needed to win.  The numbers lose out to the guys on the field.  We left points on the board thanks to drops, fumbles, and plainly not making plays.

 

I don't think it's the end of the world by any means.  At some point, the ball will bounce our way (i.e. the luck factor), but until we start finishing drives, catching those balls, and taking some calculated risks offensively, we're not going to win as often as the numbers say we will.

 

About of defense:  we held the Seahawks to 12 points.  I mean, in today's offense first NFL, that's a great number.  That gives your offense a great chance to win.  Sure, would have been swell to stop Seattle after the fumble.  Golly, I was hoping and wishing for Luke or the Kracken or anyone to make a game saving play.  The fact is, they already set the offense up to win by keeping Seattle out of the end zone, aside from one huge play.  The game was on the O.

 

Finally, we could very well end up as one of the best teams in football this year.  The key is we have to make the plays that winners make.  Like Seattle on those two, back to back pass attempts.  Looks brilliant because it worked.  If we don't win games, the numbers will mean about as much as my opinion.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users