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#76 TruCatzFan

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:06 PM

he is being pointed to as the weakest link on the defense, and yet only allowed three catches. that's a pretty decent weak link, especially given how poorly the offense played, setting him up to fail.
 
i'm not saying he's the second coming but i don't think he's as horrible as advertised


Was unaware of him allowing only 3 catches. It makes it easier to forgive him for his TD he gave up, but still man. The way in which he was beat on back to back plays by a no name WR was almost Nakamura-esque.

Maybe he'll make up for it with a pick 6 later in the season t get us a W... Is be cool with that.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:07 PM

You're not an UDFA professional football player, now are you? Talk crap all you want but if you were the starting corner for The Panthers you'd be yanked and benched so fast you would be used as a CERN experiment for Anti-Matter.


My point, sensitive man, is that your argument is invalid. He could have not given up a score for all 60 min, but if he gives up the play that leads to the win for the other team, he hasn't done his job. Thomas was abused all day. He gave some help in run support but he is more than a liability against the pass.

SEA was the 32nd ranked pass offense last year, the made no considerable upgrades, came out here and did dirty things to us. Most of it was aimed at ya boy. So you can talk crap all you want but the bottom line is the kid got torched.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

Norman not starting is a joke. 

 

Send Capt's ass to NB

Agreed, Practice is important but gametime play is even more important. Norman outperforms all our other corners when the lights are on. I still don't get this coaching staff.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

Was unaware of him allowing only 3 catches. It makes it easier to forgive him for his TD he gave up, but still man. The way in which he was beat on back to back plays by a no name WR was almost Nakamura-esque.

Maybe he'll make up for it with a pick 6 later in the season t get us a W... Is be cool with that.

 

he gave up a massive QBR, but outside of that TD he allowed two catches for 17 yards IIRC



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

My point, sensitive man, is that your argument is invalid. He could have not given up a score for all 60 min, but if he gives up the play that leads to the win for the other team, he hasn't done his job. Thomas was abused all day. He gave some help in run support but he is more than a liability against the pass.

SEA was the 32nd ranked pass offense last year, the made no considerable upgrades, came out here and did dirty things to us. Most of it was aimed at ya boy. So you can talk crap all you want but the bottom line is the kid got torched.

 

They scored 1 touchdown. Same as us.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:24 PM

Anyone else notice that Ron makes very aggressive moves in more ways than we originally thought. Didnt he gamble on not bringing Godfrey over the top twice? Ive only re-watched the first half so far. If thats true, Ron was playing odds to shut down Lynch and make Wilson beat us deep. Just as much Ron's fault as Thomas' at that point.

 

Im not sure if our coaches make any adjustments based on momentum. They make them based on the X's and O's I would think but to not see that Wilson was going off and was, at the time, "feelin it", is just strange to me. Idk havnt re-watched second half but wow that first half was monstrous by the D.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

I want to give Norman a shot to start, but this is not the week. The vast majority of Manuel's passes were short dinks. Tons of screens, throws in the flats, crossing routes, slants. Norman is notorious for refusing to play on his man, and giving a big cushion even when it's not called for by the playcall. I don't know why he does it, maybe he thinks it helps him make a play, but when the opponent's passing offense is based around the short ball, it just doesn't work. For reference watch the Bears game from last year when Cutler picked on our cushions about 8 times in a row on slants and drove down the field.

 

I don't think they were designed short passes, just check downs.  From what I saw he only had one good down-the-field pass.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:37 PM

My point, sensitive man, is that your argument is invalid. He could have not given up a score for all 60 min, but if he gives up the play that leads to the win for the other team, he hasn't done his job. Thomas was abused all day. He gave some help in run support but he is more than a liability against the pass.

SEA was the 32nd ranked pass offense last year, the made no considerable upgrades, came out here and did dirty things to us. Most of it was aimed at ya boy. So you can talk crap all you want but the bottom line is the kid got torched.


And what exactly did you expect from an UDFA that we acquired from The Dallas Cowboys' practice squad? What, a Ken Lucas? Give me a break you whiny, keyboard warrior. The last person you should compare yourself to is a professional athlete. If you can't do it, then don't compare yourself to the top percentile by referencing your 'glory' days during high school flag football. Plain and simple.

The fact is Josh Thomas gave up a big play which ultimately led to a loss and yet he is a serviceable DB, and nothing more. Don't be delusional. Considering the depth at WR for The Seahawks and how badly Wilson made top-tier defenses (ex. San Francisco) look, Thomas did an adequate job for the caliber of DB he is overall. Fans love to b#%$@ but it could have been soooooo much worse. Perhaps you would have preferred a 55 point blowout? The margin for error was excruciatingly small (thanks to the lack of production from the offensive side of the ball), and it came down to a 42 yard circus play.

Get over it, and move on.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

They scored 1 touchdown. Same as us.


Russel Wilson's first ever 300 yard game

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:06 PM

And what exactly did you expect from an UDFA that we acquired from The Dallas Cowboys' practice squad? What, a Ken Lucas? Give me a break you whiny, keyboard warrior. The last person you should compare yourself to is a professional athlete. If you can't do it, then don't compare yourself to the top percentile by referencing your 'glory' days during high school flag football. Plain and simple.

The fact is Josh Thomas gave up a big play which ultimately led to a loss and yet he is a serviceable DB, and nothing more. Don't be delusional. Considering the depth at WR for The Seahawks and how badly Wilson made top-tier defenses (ex. San Francisco) look, Thomas did an adequate job for the caliber of DB he is overall. Fans love to b#%$@ but it could have been soooooo much worse. Perhaps you would have preferred a 55 point blowout? The margin for error was excruciatingly small (thanks to the lack of production from the offensive side of the ball), and it came down to a 42 yard circus play.

Get over it, and move on.


I feel that you have misunderstood me in your efforts to emasculate me.

Take a pill put some ice on it and wait for the swelling to subside.

Thomas is who he is and that's ok. I'm not gonna make excuses for him allowing the plays he allowed. And you getting so twisted about it is absurd. Thomas will have to do until we get something better.

Now to steal a line from you..

Get over it and move on.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

Thomas had a good game outside that catch. Seattle ran the same play back to back with 2 different receivers becuz they saw something to exploit gotta give the CB some help on that.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:21 PM

I feel that you have misunderstood me in your efforts to emasculate me.

Take a pill put some ice on it and wait for the swelling to subside.

Thomas is who he is and that's ok. I'm not gonna make excuses for him allowing the plays he allowed. And you getting so twisted about it is absurd. Thomas will have to do until we get something better.

Now to steal a line from you..

Get over it and move on.

 

I'm not here to emasculate anyone but I despise when fans start diving into hyperbolic statements.

 

Did Josh Thomas play below average? Yep. I do not deny this. However, did he gave up three scores and 150+ yards, and singlehandedly cost us the game? Hell no. In addition, our secondary gave up a league worst 66% completion rate last year because of the scheme McDermott runs. Was it any different on Sunday?

 

I'll take Thomas' two big plays and 12 points over Witner's four big plays and 40+ point loss any day.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 06:43 PM

I'm not here to emasculate anyone but I despise when fans start diving into hyperbolic statements.

Did Josh Thomas play below average? Yep. I do not deny this. However, did he gave up three scores and 150+ yards, and singlehandedly cost us the game? Hell no. In addition, our secondary gave up a league worst 66% completion rate last year because of the scheme McDermott runs. Was it any different on Sunday?

I'll take Thomas' two big plays and 12 points over Witner's four big plays and 40+ point loss any day.


Fine. You have your opinion about the situation and I have mine. They just so happen to differ ever so slightly. You like Thomas and his play, I like Thomas but am not crazy about his play. This is our collective situation to deal with. Ill still be wearing my jersey Sunday as I'm sure you will be too. Lets just agree to disagree while agreeing that we have to win this week.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:06 AM

The way I look a it where just that #1 CB away from having a very solid group of talented young CB'S. Easier said then done to find that #1 CB, but feel Norman, Thomas , & Dockery can all be solid # 2,3s & 4s. Their young & should keep improving not cost much & form a good chemistry. For the future.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:14 AM

How can RR worry about the run with a front 7 like ours? He needs to worry about the pass with a secondary like ours.


A good run D can mask that area. If we can stop the run and score points on offense I think we will win games, but we have to convert our opportunities on offense


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