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#16 panther4life

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:02 PM

Of all the things to complain about last week or reasons to pin our 7 on points last week, Shula is the least of my personal worries at this point.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:07 PM

Wasn't a big reason Shula was hired was because he agreed to a one year deal of continuity with the offense?


And if it wasnt of dropped passed and fumbles....we would have moved the ball very efficiently on a good D.

Not sure why this is spun as a playcalling problem. Was clearly a player issue on Sunday

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:09 PM

And if it wasnt of dropped passed and fumbles....we would have moved the ball very efficiently on a good D.

Not sure why this is spun as a playcalling problem. Was clearly a player issue on Sunday

Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

Goal # 1 for most huddlers, win the game.

 

Goal # 2...Be able to say all offseason that if we lose its going to be because of what I said.

 

People hating on Shula have been doing it way before the first game. Nobody all of a sudden just decided to turn on him.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:23 PM

And still lost.

 

With last Sunday's D, we win ( or at least with last Sunday's D, and Chris Gamble [or probably even Drayton Florence]).

 

If we keep dropping easy passes and fumbling in the red zone it won't really matter.

 

Uncharacteristic. Not concerned.

 

And if it wasnt of dropped passed and fumbles....we would have moved the ball very efficiently on a good D.

Not sure why this is spun as a playcalling problem. Was clearly a player issue on Sunday

 

I think it was a bit of both: mistakes and play calling (or at least a lack of faith in colleagues and/or personnel).



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:33 PM

...that although overall it's a similar system, Newton and the offense are still adjusting to a new offensive coordinator.

Week one was their first 'live ammo' game under Shula. Thus, it's probably reasonable to expect a few issues and hiccups in the transition. Improvements in game two, even if they're only minor, will be a good sign.

If it still looks the same after week four or so, then I might be concerned. But for now, a glitch or two is to be expected.

 

After re-watching the game, I was surprisingly impressed with the playcalling. Do we need to score more? Absolutely but I believe we're on the right path.

 



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

I agree with you. It will take time. I actually like this new approach. Balanced attack is needed. We have all these RBs, why not use them? One thing I did like about the game is Cam took care of the ball. Was he alittle too timid? Maybe. But he didn't turn the ball over. I'm looking forward to sunday



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:40 PM

And if it wasnt of dropped passed and fumbles....we would have moved the ball very efficiently on a good D.

Not sure why this is spun as a playcalling problem. Was clearly a player issue on Sunday

 

Newton completing 69% (76% had Olsen not brought his butterfingers to gameday) of his passes and The Seattle secondary admitting 'complications' in deciphering the playcalling has me joining the bandwagon.
 



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:47 PM

All I can say is I need to see it before I can believe. I want to give Shula the benefit of the doubt and that he can change his conservative ways, but he has 3 seasons worth of NFL OC data and his offenses ranked bottom 10 every year (2 years at 30th in passing). And then Newton goes out and puts out a career low passing yardage total (I realize the Seattle D is good and there were some drops). 

 

I keep thinking of the Einstein quote about insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

I need to SEE different results for my opinion to change.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

Norv is calling plays, right?

 

From what I've heard.

 

Norv was usually better at having some semblance of offensive balance.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

I don't understand how we're supposedly going with "consistency" when we promoted Shula, then the offense is totally different. Boggles the mind. Sounds like another Rivera excuse.



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:30 PM

I don't understand how we're supposedly going with "consistency" when we promoted Shula, then the offense is totally different. Boggles the mind. Sounds like another Rivera excuse.

 

"Continuity", not "consistency".



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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:33 PM

Offense isn't totally different though. We're using the same play book, just more conservatively.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:35 PM

Maybe they're telling Cam that he needs to be conservative and just not turn the ball over because the defense is beast mode and will win us more games than not so long as we don't give the other team extra possessions like we did last Sunday.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:37 PM

Maybe they're telling Cam that he needs to be conservative and just not turn the ball over because the defense is beast mode and will win us more games than not so long as we don't give the other team extra possessions like we did last Sunday.


That would worry me. Like everything in life it's all about balance.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:43 PM

Maybe they're telling Cam that he needs to be conservative and just not turn the ball over because the defense is beast mode and will win us more games than not so long as we don't give the other team extra possessions like we did last Sunday.

 

I don't think it's that, honestly.

 

To be truthful, I just think it's the transition to a slightly different system under a new OC.  Takes everyone a little time, and heck when was the last time Newton's OC wasn't a revolving door?  He gets the same guy two years in a row and then 'poof', he's gone and we're starting fresh again.

 

It's reasonable to expect a little bit of transition.  But since he's generally been a fast learner as a pro, this week, who knows?




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