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#31 C47

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

Sure.
Solution: Trade Cam.


Not much a fan of Hundley or Boyd. 2014 class will be led by Bridgewater and Manziel.

 

Manziel?? Dude you must be high. Manziel is probably the sixth best QB in this class. 

 

My list would be

 

Bridgewater

Mariota

Boyd

Hundley

Hogan

Manziel/Morris



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:17 PM

Manziel?? Dude you must be high. Manziel is probably the sixth best QB in this class.

My list would be

Bridgewater
Mariota
Boyd
Hundley
Hogan
Manziel/Morris


Just watch. Other than being a cocky knuckle head, Manziel's talents and upside is above the rest. Manziel will be a 1st rounder next year possibly a Brown. Manziel is the 2nd best QB in that class. If you can't see that, you must be the one high.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:38 PM

Just watch. Other than being a cocky knuckle head, Manziel's talents and upside is above the rest. Manziel will be a 1st rounder next year possibly a Brown. Manziel is the 2nd best QB in that class. If you can't see that, you must be the one high.

 

I'd easily take Hundley over him



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

I'd easily take Hundley over him

 

I would easily take Mariota and Boyd over him too. Manziel doesn't have the arm strength to make all the throws on the football field, is 6'1 if he's lucky, and acts like an entitled brat off the field.  He makes flashy plays, but Mariota is a much better passer, and equally good if not a better athlete.  Boyd while not the prototype size QB, shows ability to alter his release point to adjust to receivers and position of defense. Also he's still a solid athlete, and much better thrower of the football.  Hundley's all about upside, but physical tools are much better than Manziel's in terms of NFL traits....



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:12 PM

Just watch. Other than being a cocky knuckle head, Manziel's talents and upside is above the rest. Manziel will be a 1st rounder next year possibly a Brown. Manziel is the 2nd best QB in that class. If you can't see that, you must be the one high.

 

Manziel should not, and almost certainly will not be drafted before Marcus Mariota if both come out....



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:30 PM

Manziel should not, and almost certainly will not be drafted before Marcus Mariota if both come out....


I like Mariota but I still have to give the edge to Manziel. Sure, Manziel is short. Sure he's a brat, but he makes some of the best throws at times. I have not seen much of Mariota too so it's hard for me to make a judgment of the kid. It's hard for me to read into his stats alone since Oregon is such a high powerful offense. I don't believe he's what some people think he is though: Kaepernick.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

Mariota can come out this year?  It looks like we are going have a pretty high pick this year.  I'm not sure Cam will get the right coach to further his career, so we could be going in another direction.  If Mariota's avaivable, I wouldn't mind if we picked him up.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:24 PM

Yea Mariota and Manziel are both red shirt Sophomores. Both will be eligible for NFL Draft consideration in January.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:26 PM

I like Mariota but I still have to give the edge to Manziel. Sure, Manziel is short. Sure he's a brat, but he makes some of the best throws at times. I have not seen much of Mariota too so it's hard for me to make a judgment of the kid. It's hard for me to read into his stats alone since Oregon is such a high powerful offense. I don't believe he's what some people think he is though: Kaepernick.

 

So you haven't seen much of him but you don't believe he's what people who have seen him are comparing him to? Seems like good logic to me....



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:27 PM

Mariota can come out this year?  It looks like we are going have a pretty high pick this year.  I'm not sure Cam will get the right coach to further his career, so we could be going in another direction.  If Mariota's avaivable, I wouldn't mind if we picked him up.

 

You're getting the same kind of QB though.  If we're not going to let Cam play to his strengths why would we let Mariota?



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

Mariota can come out this year?  It looks like we are going have a pretty high pick this year.  I'm not sure Cam will get the right coach to further his career, so we could be going in another direction.  If Mariota's avaivable, I wouldn't mind if we picked him up.

 

So draft Mariota in the 1st? SMH



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

So draft Mariota in the 1st? SMH

 

I'm going to re-quote this when Mariota is a top 15 (potentially top 5-10) pick next year...



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

So you haven't seen much of him but you don't believe he's what people who have seen him are comparing him to? Seems like good logic to me....

 

So you watch some youtube clips and look at the stats, then compared him to Kaepernick? Good luck.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

I'm going to re-quote this when Mariota is a top 15 (potentially top 5-10) pick next year...

 

What's your point? You want to trade Cam for Mariota? Have fun.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:36 PM

So you watch some youtube clips and look at the stats, then compared him to Kaepernick? Good luck.

 

I watch just about every Oregon game actually, but thanks for playing...

 

 

What's your point? You want to trade Cam for Mariota? Have fun.

 

 

When did I ever say this? I don't want to trade Cam at all. I want the owner and GM to put a coaching staff and supporting cast around him and build this offense around his unique ability. Just don't understand how you can have such a steadfast opinion that Manziel is better than Mariota or Hundley when you say you haven't seen much of Mariota, so I'll assume you haven't seen much of the other Pac 12 guy.  Again, thanks for playing...




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