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Cam has to feel trapped on a terrible football team

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goddamn it, I forgot what it was like when we had consecutive losing games around here. "LUCK LUCK LUCK!?!?!?!"

 

well they would be yelling about griffin too if his team didn't get shithoused today

 

at least that element is unlikely to show its face for a while

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Prove all that, man.  How is he better than Cam, when they're stats are pretty much the same.  Wait, no they're not...Cam is killing that man statistically.  Go ahead and spew some bullsh*t about how wins makes Luck better, and how that determines he's going to be a better player than Cam.  All the wins prove is Luck has the better overall team.  

 

Also @ the bolded...naw man.  TD's thrown and rushed, INT's thrown, passer rating and yes completion percentage is what's got me going.  All of those better than Lucks.

So you are a stats guy.  Fine.

 

Good luck with that.  Sounds like it would be awesome.

 

Congratulations.  YOu think Cam has a brighter future than Luck.  I don't.

 

You have stat lines to back you up and I have wins, a rookie playoff run, and faaaaar better fundamentals in the pocket to back me up.

 

oh yeah both guys took over 2-14 teams and I won't even begin to compare the pressure.  One taking over for an injured hall of famer thrown on the trash heap in the stadium he built and the other having to measure up to the great Jimmy Claussen.

 

For the record, considering the actual situation I hope beyond all hope that you are right.  I just find no logic in your faith.  Its like you guys feel personally attacked or something.  

 

This obsession is weird.   I don't even like Luck.  I think he's a dick for dodging us.  How I get pinned with taking his side has been a strange turn of events.  But I just do not see what you guys see anymore.  

 

So far that makes me a Luck loving, illogical, off the rails, racist.  And still counting.

 

 

forgive me but something about that just makes me feel that some of you are fans for the wrong reasons and therefore willing to defend in spite of reality or logic.  Not sure what hold he has on some of you but it seems unhealthy to say the least.

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Cam has led the Panthers in 8 fourth quarter comebacks or ties. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

 

shut it down, thread over

 

sorry this had to happen to you mumouey or however your username is spelled.

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Cam has led the Panthers in 8 fourth quarter comebacks or ties. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

 

thank you god, reason.

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So let me get this straight, the argument you all are making is that if Cam had a:

 

1) great coach

2) great OLine

3) great defense

4) great playcalling

 

....then he would be as good as Luck? lmao. man, way to put 0.0% of responsibility on the guy that touches the ball 75 times per game

 

Cam would do just fine with 1. Rookie year when the defense was bad we were still in games, Head coach giving the ball back to other teams and other horrible decisions.effects us the most. Defense aint gotta be great just make stops and get some turnovers.

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So you are a stats guy.  Fine.

 

Good luck with that.  Sounds like it would be awesome.

 

Congratulations.  YOu think Cam has a brighter future than Luck.  I don't.

 

You have stat lines to back you up and I have wins, a rookie playoff run, and faaaaar better fundamentals in the pocket to back me up.

 

oh yeah both guys took over 2-14 teams and I won't even begin to compare the pressure.  One taking over for an injured hall of famer thrown on the trash heap in the stadium he built and the other having to measure up to the great Jimmy Claussen.

 

For the record, considering the actual situation I hope beyond all hope that you are right.  I just find no logic in your faith.  Its like you guys feel personally attacked or something.  

 

This obsession is weird.   I don't even like Luck.  I think he's a dick for dodging us.  How I get pinned with taking his side has been a strange turn of events.  But I just do not see what you guys see anymore.  

 

So far that makes me a Luck loving, illogical, off the rails, racist.  And still counting.

 

 

forgive me but something about that just makes me feel that some of you are fans for the wrong reasons and therefore willing to defend in spite of reality or logic.  Not sure what hold he has on some of you but it seems unhealthy to say the least.

 

 

Cam has led the Panthers in 7 fourth quarter comebacks leads and one tie. The defense has failed to hold 6 times. Also our kicker missed a game tying field goal.

Out of Luck's 8 fourth quarter comebacks 6 were scores with 3:00+ minutes to go in the game that the defense has held. Another on of his wins the defense held a three point lead going into the fourth by giving up zero points in the fourth quarter.

I can't remember the last time we held a one score lead with 3:00+ to to in a game. Cam's record and fourth quarter comebacks would look a lot different if he had that timely support like Luck did.

But don't let that get in your way.

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its over not only has Cam led the same amount of game winning drives or ties as luck but he has had the best 2 years for a qb EVER.

 

this fuging fanbase is insane

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ahhahahah this is too easy with you inbred southern folk. first I destroy Zod last week and get him to scared to debate me, then get you all telling me how good Cam WOULD be if "...xxx" happened.

 

keep trying tho. you guys will win a debate eventually

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well they would be yelling about griffin too if his team didn't get shithoused today

 

at least that element is unlikely to show its face for a while

 

It all comes back to the Wins and Loses not performances. To bad we didnt try to do that today

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i never said a damn thing about cam being better than luck.  by blubbering about a quarterback's "wins" you've trapped yourself into an incredibly stupid way of looking at football and the only thing you can do is straw man people to death in response as you've demonstrated.

 

 

really

 

who has more single season wins

 

who has won his way into the playoffs

 

who has winning drives

 

I don't think I am looking at that minute piece of the discussion you are referring to in the wrong way at all

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i never said a damn thing about cam being better than luck.  by blubbering about a quarterback's "wins" you've trapped yourself into an incredibly stupid way of looking at football and the only thing you can do is straw man people to death in response as you've demonstrated.

 

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ahhahahah this is too easy with you inbred southern folk. first I destroy Zod last week and get him to scared to debate me, then get you all telling me how good Cam WOULD be if "...xxx" happened.

 

keep trying tho. you guys will win a debate eventually

 

this is literally like trying to explain evolution to an evangelical.

 

you cannot listen to logic.

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