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One thing's for sure. Manuel looked AT LEAST as good as Newton today. He made his share of mistakes, but he hung in and came up big at the end in only his second NFL game

Manuel had all day to throw and either threw the ball to the back or into the dirt until Norman came in the game. He threw a ball that was intercepted and should have ended the game regardless of the pass interference call. He got bailed out

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Honestly I wouldn't mind him leaving. Fug it can't be any worse.

Sure it could....can go from competitive losers to guys who have no shot

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The thing about Cam is that he is NOT elite. As much as we all love him, as much as he is not Jake or Jimmy or Vinny or anyone else. He is simply very good. Very good QBs have good games, great games, and bad games. He will never be a Manning, Rodgers, Favre, Brees. We just need to accept it. Thankfully, very good QBs, with a solid coaching staff and team can go all the way. 

Oh please!! What is your definition of an elite QB? What does an "elite" QB look like? IMO, today's media's idea of an "elite QB" seem more built on image than talent. Not one of the so called Elite QBs didn't have their share of growing pain. And they all were given a chance to grow.

 

All this talk about Luck is just that..talk. The difference between Cam, Luck, and RG III getting to that so called elite status is how they are being portrayed and how much time is given to them by the media to grow. The question is, will you guys let Cam grow as a QB or do you just see him as an end to this team's means and in turn will burn him out and discard him like trash.

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Sure it could....can go from competitive losers to guys who have no shot

 

i absolutely do not understand people who say that it "couldn't be worse".  

 

hell yes it could be worse.  most of the people on this board have seen it be worse.  anybody who honestly believes that deserves jimmy clausen.

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What a stupid thread

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i absolutely do not understand people who say that it "couldn't be worse".  

 

hell yes it could be worse.  most of the people on this board have seen it be worse.  anybody who honestly believes that deserves jimmy clausen.

 

Could Clausen throw picks into triple coverage?

Could Clausen get sacked 5 times and never throw the ball away to avoid?

Could Clausen overthrow receivers by 5 yards on 30 yd passes?

Could Clausen not read the "read" option?

 

If you don't have a reason to be on a high horse, don't climb up there, Cam is stinking it up.  It was a huge chance to have drafted him when there was so little passing for any team to review with Cam.  Running, yes, plenty of tape, but it was a faith move to hope he could develop into a pocket passer.

Some are losing faith

 

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I don't throw poo that I buy out the window...that is what is retarded...

Well if you know it was stolen you would.

 

BTW, this is why folks bring up the racial aspect of things. Many white kids do more dumb ish then what Cam did but it clear's when it comes to black kids, many of you white folks are more than happy to attach your own kids bad behavor unto that kid then act all selfrighteous. But when your kid does it, "it's no big deal." 

 

Peyton was an Ass-hole in college. It is more than well documented but I don't see anyone making much out of it or trying to associate his current mindset with his behavior in college. But with Cam, he's a thief, without proof; he's a "thug;" he's stupid, based on what? Him doing what any other teen knowing he had a hot lap-top would do? 

 

Question is, why are we even talking about this ish anyway? Things keep being made clearer and clearer why this kid has so much negative energy around him. Way to much of you are to close to his past and don't want to leave it there. Still bitter that he helped Auburn?

 

And here is another reality check for those who keep wanting to push the notion that Cam is issue...Judging by the stats of Colin, Russel, and even the Bills QB, cam played better than both Russel and Colin and equal to the Bills QB, so what is your point?

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Could Clausen throw picks into triple coverage?

Could Clausen get sacked 5 times and never throw the ball away to avoid?

Could Clausen overthrow receivers by 5 yards on 30 yd passes?

Could Clausen not read the "read" option?

 

If you don't have a reason to be on a high horse, don't climb up there, Cam is stinking it up.  It was a huge chance to have drafted him when there was so little passing for any team to review with Cam.  Running, yes, plenty of tape, but it was a faith move to hope he could develop into a pocket passer.

Some are losing faith

 

 

this post is making my eyes bleed.

 

first of all, unless you disagree with me when i posit that things could absolutely be worse, then you have no business replying.  if thinking that somebody posted something that's demonstrably false constitutes "being on a high horse" then you should direct this shitpost of yours to everybody on this forum rather than just me.

 

but i'll humor you.  as for jimmy, if he had put up cam's game on sunday, it would be far and away his best game as a pro.  like not even close.  jimmy is a known quantity-he sucks, he's not on an NFL team, it's just a fact that he was overdrafted and hurney made a mistake selecting him, etc.  these are basic things that are generally accepted as true and can be backed up easily with facts and the burden of proof is 100% on you if you disagree.

 

as for losing faith, that's fine.  i'm losing faith too, but not in any one particular player more than the coaching staff.  it's amazing to me that, three years after the endless nightmare that was the 2010 season, so many people are taking it for granted that we have a quarterback now whose floor is just average/below average on his absolute worst day.  that we could roll any dipshit out there (as you wanted to do in late 2012 with your obnoxious "start derek because the games don't matter" shitposting spree) and he'd be at least as good as cam.  stupid as hell, and that was my point.

 

e: clausen threw 9 picks to 3 TDs in his only significant time as a starter.  he has no problem turning the ball over to address (what i suppose was) your point.

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this kind of rhetoric is also interesting in light of the horrible games that "superior, more intelligent, better pocket passer" quarterbacks colin kaepernick and robert griffin had this weekend.  those are two names that i haven't seen come up in this circle jerk yet, oddly.

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please. you've been called out for racial profiling and are backtracking more than carolina-chuck when he's proven wrong. there's no crutch here. just you and your racial stereotypes.

 

Oh and you've been called out for being unable to be anything other than a idiot who can not  live with out self righteous speak.

 

My favorite players are mostly black and I can name many (Davis, Smitty and others) who are highly intelligent, but Cam just happens to be dumber than a rock and slow witted.

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lol at you all pinning this loss on Cam, typical.

people blaming everyone but the most important player is even more typical.  The defense gave the offense the ball TWICE in a row INSIDE THE 30 YARD LINE AND WE ONLY SCORED FG'S.  Ginn should have had 3 or 4 tds yesterday and Lafell was open on that play that would have ended the game.

 

Please come up with ONE example where Cam has been clutch, just one.  

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You guys are underestimating the effect of Shula as OC. He is terrible. He was terrible on the college level, and yet he is somehow going to up his game against NFL DCs? Newton belongs in a spread offense. Newton would thrive with a coach like Chip Kelly. Alas, he is stuck with Rivera and Shula. 

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