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#196 carolinarolls

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:16 PM

I wouldn't.  

 

Know what I would take in a second?

 

Competent coaches.

 

 

I can respect that.  Great coaches are a huge difference.  

 

That said.  I do not think I will ever see Luck make throws down field like I saw Cam make today.  I don't think a coach can change that.  It's the same as it was three years ago.   All coaches could do is maybe give Cam more chances to make up for the huge errors when they come.

 

That may be enough.  Maybe not.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:17 PM

lmao. you're making my point for me idiot. So let me get this straight, we are debating Cam vs Andrew Luck, and you want to bring up Win/Loss record? Trust me, that's not a road you want to go down. This isn't a winnable debate for you. You'd be better off folding and taking your loss now.

lmao Luck brought a 2-14 team to the playoffs as a rookie and has 8 game winning drives in 18 career games. Cam is 13-21 as a starter. But yes, lets debate wins and losses :)


Let's talk about Luck's performance in the playoffs when his team needed him, you empty scrotum.

Or do you not care to share those statistics? I'll help you.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS QBR RTG

A. Luck 28/54 288 5.3 0 1 3-21 31.2 59.8

Oh and let's not forget a fumble that was lost. Pick up the pieces and get out troll.

#198 BBQ&Beer

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

he does not have that option

In the position of QB1 you are charged with winning the trust of each and every unit. They are not charged with winning yours. It goes with the territory.


Decent enough for a Disney film, but the intent is little more than a platitude.

That said I completely agree that there is a possibility that he hurried a throw or two because he does not have complete trust. But even that is not excusable.


Wasn't intended as an excuse.

#199 MuMouey

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:21 PM

Let's talk about Luck's performance in the playoffs when his team needed him, you empty scrotum.

Or do you not care to share those statistics? I'll help you.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS QBR RTG

A. Luck 28/54 288 5.3 0 1 3-21 31.2 59.8

Oh and let's not forget a fumble that was lost.

Pick up the pieces and get out troll.

 

hahahahah what game was that? The playoffs? very interesting game you chose. 

 

1) you picked ONE game. Want to compare ONE game vs ONE game? ok:

 

Cam Newton vs the NY Giants:

 

16 completions in 30 attempts. ZERO tds THREE ints

 

see how easy that is?

 

 

2) wow, you really have the balls to bring up PLAYOFFS? Luck takes  a 2-14 team to the playoffs? and you are using that as a "pro Cam" argument? LMAO! Too bad we havent's seen that in 6 years :)

 

 

terrible terrible debate for you. Like i said, just end now. You are making a fool of yourself in front of 100's of Huddlers



#200 TheRed

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:23 PM

About as much as you typing "YourMomsLover" in every other one of your posts. Lol

It's like Im always on your mind. Lol every single day you post some bullshit about me. It's awesome lol.


I mentioned your name one time here. Yet you have your eyes glued to the screen.

Today is the first day we've interacted in awhile. If you're lonely, get a pet.

#201 AggieLean.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:23 PM

I can respect that.  Great coaches are a huge difference.  

 

That said.  I do not think I will ever see Luck make throws down field like I saw Cam make today.  I don't think a coach can change that.  It's the same as it was three years ago.   All coaches could do is maybe give Cam more chances to make up for the huge errors when they come.

 

That may be enough.  Maybe not.

What are you talking about? He made those kinds of throws his whole rookie year, hence the reason his completion % was in the low 50's. 



#202 carolinarolls

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:23 PM

Decent enough for a Disney film, but the intent is little more than a platitude.


Wasn't intended as an excuse.

 

disney film.  I appreciate the humor there but I still believe there are more responsibilities placed on the QB and one of them is to make everyone believe in them first so they bust their ass for him later.  Just my opinion.

 

 

fair enough.   I thought you were making a point that the oline did not garner his full trust and so i felt you were inferring that since he did not trust them he was somehow forced into some situations that he handled poorly.

 

I guess I was wrong there.



#203 MechaZain

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:24 PM

Comparing Luck to Cam is more useless now than it was even during the draft. Panthers and Colts are two completely different teams and there's no telling what those stats would look like with the QBs swapped. This is pointless.



#204 Nicks To The Colts

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:24 PM

so why are people in here blubbering about andrew luck when he put up a similar stat line to cam and his team lost today

 

just save up your mcdonalds paychecks and buy your jersey and shut up already



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

Let's talk about Luck's performance in the playoffs when his team needed him, you empty scrotum.

Or do you not care to share those statistics? I'll help you.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS QBR RTG

A. Luck 28/54 288 5.3 0 1 3-21 31.2 59.8

Oh and let's not forget a fumble that was lost. Pick up the pieces and get out troll.

 

Andrew Luck's stats are generally bad. With him you have to talk about "team wins" in order to make it seem like he is this God send that people make him out to be...

 

He would have won ROY had Wilson and RGIII team's failed to make the playoffs but because they did the media could not use the argument of team wins.

 

Of course forgetting that his team plays in a bad division and a generally weak conference.



#206 MuMouey

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:26 PM

Comparing Luck to Cam is more useless now than it was even during the draft. Panthers and Colts are two completely different teams and there's no telling what those stats would look like with the QBs swapped. This is pointless.

 

STATS are pointless yes. I never brought up stats until someone else did. But you can't sit here and say Cam has progressed in 3 years to ANY relation to what Luck, Rus Wilson, and Kaep did from their first game to their 5th. Cam's got raw talent, and relies way to much on it



#207 YourMomsLover

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:26 PM

I mentioned your name one time here. Yet you have your eyes glued to the screen.

Today is the first day we've interacted in awhile. If you're lonely, get a pet.


I know right. I missed you. How you been?

#208 TheRed

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:27 PM

hahahahah what game was that? The playoffs? very interesting game you chose.

1) you picked ONE game. Want to compare ONE game vs ONE game? ok:

Cam Newton vs the NY Giants:

16 completions in 30 attempts. ZERO tds THREE ints

see how easy that is?


2) wow, you really have the balls to bring up PLAYOFFS? Luck takes a 2-14 team to the playoffs? and you are using that as a "pro Cam" argument? LMAO! Too bad we havent's seen that in 6 years :)


terrible terrible debate for you. Like i said, just end now. You are making a fool of yourself in front of 100's of Huddlers


Obviously that struck a nerve. Oh yeah, that game totally didn't matter for Luck or the Colts.

I'm not the one playing bandwagon fan like a scorned woman and touting other teams players. Seriously, why the fug are you even here? You've been lurking and hardly posting for awhile now, yet suddenly you're a Colts fan?

Nobody here gives two shits about that guy or his team. Take your sorry ass to their boards.

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

What are you talking about? He made those kinds of throws his whole rookie year, hence the reason his completion % was in the low 50's. 

 

 

He got better and is still getting better.  Plus he threw about a million passes (5th most in league) in his rookie season.  Sometimes it will lead to a bad %.  See Peyton Manning

 

I do not think Cam is progressing like this kid is/will.  I also do not remember seeing passes missing as badly as those Cam launched today.  Some of that ish was just plain bad.



#210 MuMouey

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

Obviously that struck a nerve. Oh yeah, that game totally didn't matter for Luck or the Colts.

I'm not the one playing bandwagon fan like a scorned woman and touting other teams players. Seriously, why the fug are you even here? You've been lurking and hardly posting for awhile now, yet suddenly you're a Colts fan?

Nobody here gives two shits about that guy or his team. Take your sorry ass to their boards.

 

 

hahahahahahahahaha

 

-Realizes he loses argument

-Then completely forgets the argument and starts personal attacks.

 

good debate bro. don't let it bother you. you'll realize soon enough that Im never wrong :)

 

take care. better luck next time




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